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Biden Issues Order To Send 3,000 U.S Reserve Troops To Europe (wsau.com)

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[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 90 points 1 year ago

Man, the replies are shilled as hell. There's a war of aggresion in Europe, and nobody can afford to be a bystander. We have paid bitterly for inaction against dictators in the past, and we must not let history repeat itself. No amount of fake handwringing or nuclear sabre rattling will change the fact that Ukraine is a free and sovereign nation, and that Russia has no right to have any territorial pretensions towards it. As for the paid trolls and contrarians - history will not remember you kindly.

[-] lasagna@programming.dev 38 points 1 year ago

The less we push against Russia now the more aggressive it will become in the future. Playing nice has led the world to a global crisis and Ukraine to a bloodshed filled with war crimes.

Russia's government is evil and there's no middle ground between good and evil that isn't evil.

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[-] Hubi@feddit.de 28 points 1 year ago

I can't believe how many tankies I had to scroll past to find a sane comment.

[-] lasagna@programming.dev 20 points 1 year ago

I'm very wary of Lemmy because of this. There's so much pro Russia / China going on here. Users who spam post propaganda that go unbanned.

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[-] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 46 points 1 year ago

I do not like the direction this is going.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 24 points 1 year ago

Is that a quote from Putin?

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[-] Raphael@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

It's OK guys, America isn't provoking a war or anything like that.

Just tell, has a war EVER started because America was sending troops and building military bases where they shouldn't?

[-] thallamabond@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

'provoking a war' Russia invaded Ukraine, thus provoking war.

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I want to see your reaction when China puts 83k troops in Cuba.

Nah, I know exactly what you're going to say.

[-] thallamabond@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Russia invaded Ukraine, thus provoking war.

[-] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 11 points 1 year ago

And is that worth the US involvement going hot and dragging the whole world into nuclear warfare?

[-] thallamabond@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Russia invaded Ukraine, thus provoking war

[-] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 11 points 1 year ago

That doesn't answer my question, and demonstrates a lack of critical thinking

[-] thallamabond@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Did you know that Russia invaded Ukraine? Did you know Russia invaded Georgia? Did you know Russia invaded Crimea?

You and your questions, playing some fantasy game of Risk, but in the future........can get bent.

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[-] mezzlegasm@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

If they did it after we initiated war next to cuba, then I wouldn’t be surprised at all?

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[-] Nepoleon@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Provoking war with whom. Russia is already at war with Ukraine lmao. Maybe dont start a war if you dont want war provoking bla bla

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

A guy walks into my house and stabs my wife. He starts eating the food out of my refrigerator. I don't call the police, because I wouldn't want to provoke him.

Fuck entirely off shill.

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[-] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

What could possibly go wrong?

[-] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

The US already has 80k troops there, 3k more isn't some kind of escalation.

[-] Nepoleon@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

Wtf is this comment tree. I have a feeling some of the comments I read are made by russian bots trying to make 3k soldiers seem like a dramatic red line news when so many more notworthy things were done in the past years.

Wouldnt surprise me. Lemmy has no tools to prevent russian bots and propaganda at all. Lemmy doesnt even have Voting contest mode or multi account detection to prevent manipulation

[-] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Or maybe some are by pentagon hawks looking to stoke the flames of war?

Seriously though, calling people who don't parrot your opinion bots is toxic rhetoric. You are more than welcome to examine who is making what votes, that information is all public. But if you were to take a close look at my account (and others whom I assume you are accusing of being bots) we are all organic Lemmy accounts.

3k is 3k. It's an increase. It's not war starting today but it's definitely not a step in the right direction. Calling attention to the likely scenarios of the US escalating their military presence in the region is most certainly not Russian propaganda just because it contradicts the American propaganda.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago

Why do you keep phrasing this as if a war didn't already start over a year ago after Russia invaded Ukraine?

Seems you'd rather see innocent Ukranians slaughtered than offer them any aid. Why is that?

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[-] ikiru@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Typical reddit liberal moment calling someone who doesn't agree with the US a "Russian bot".

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago

Nah it's more like calling someone carrying water for Russia and blaming the US for a war that Russia started a year ago a Russian bot.

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[-] sisiek@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago

typical lemmy moment when you prefer to bash the US when Russian bots are on rampage?

I'm from Eastern Europe. I hate what Russia did to my country and my family in effect. Long history. I hate what they are doing to Ukraine. And this comment section feels weird, because for me more US soldiers in Europe mean more peace and stability.

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[-] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 17 points 1 year ago

Why is it being done?

This is how things start. Just like with weapons assistance, first it's a little then it's billions on the regular. This is an increase to an already way oversized presence of a foreign continents military in a delicate situation.

[-] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

It's not a delicate situation for Ukrainians, they're defending their freedom. Accusing the US of escalation here when Russia violently invaded it's peaceful neighbor?

[-] sangle_of_flame@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I mean the first issue here is that you think the US government actually gives a shit about humanitarian things; they're doing this because it'll be beneficial to them, not out of the goodness of their heart

you really need to understand that you can't take the US at its word when it says it's sending soldiers to another country for moral reasons

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[-] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 11 points 1 year ago

Right, and Ukraine has every right to defend their country. The US escalating the situation by involving troops brings this from a regional conflict to a global nuclear war. The US escalating this can lead to nuclear aniahialation

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[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Accusing the US of escalation here when Russia violently invaded it’s peaceful neighbor?

Do you understand what escalation means? Escalation doesn't have anything to do with who started it. It's a relative action: it escalates from some state. The USA is committing troops where it previously hadn't (or, more pedantically, is increasing the number of committed troops). This is escalation.

You can complain about Russia starting this, but you should also complain about the USA escalating the situation.

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[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

The US already has 80k troops there, 3k more isn’t some kind of escalation.

Is 83K more than 80K? Yes? Then it's an escalation.

[-] sangle_of_flame@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

this does not sound good

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

It's like an extra 4% buildup, doesn't sound extreme.

[-] sangle_of_flame@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

yeah, but still, it's the US doing this

after offering to give Ukraine fucking cluster bombs (and after decades of the US doing the same warcrime shit during every invasion they do), I have zero confidence that they're not going to make the conflict so much worse