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[-] brb@lemmy.world 173 points 1 year ago

I never understood why anyone would use Brave, the payouts are small, the utility of the crypto is zero, and watching/seeing adverts is a nightmare. I honestly believe that blocking all advertising and sending a small monetary amount to someone providing value is a better way of supporting the people you care about.

[-] dan@lemm.ee 156 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use Firefox over Brave simply because I have much more trust that Mozilla won’t suddenly turn into dicks.

(Also because Firefox is awesome now, and because competition in the browser world is a good thing, but it’s mainly the probably-not-being-dicks thing)

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago

I got downvoted to shit on Reddit for saying stuff like this (on the weirdly frequent posts about how great Brave is)

Ig I’ve found my people now

[-] Onlytanner@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Firefox has been super good for me as well. I switched from Chrome a few years ago and initially had the occasional issue, but thinking about it now I can't recall the last time I had an issue with Firefox that forced me to use another browser.

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[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago

the payouts

wait, what? I was just looking for a search engine that does least tracking and brave was recommended a few times, so I use that, but have never seen any ads or been offered any payout? Am I doing it wrong? (for the record, if they'd offered me payment to watch ads I would have never even installed it in the first place, and will now be removing it as my default on firefox)

[-] binom@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

no, you are right. there is a lot of talk about the brave browser in this thread, a chromium based ad blocking browser by the brave company that gives you their own crypto in return for unobtrusive ads on the start page, which can then be used to donate to content creators on the internet (i think) or be cashed in. you and the op are talking about brave search, a search engine created by the same company

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[-] s0phia@lemmy.world 139 points 1 year ago

Brave is just too shady and I hate that it's considered a "privacy" browser by people who don't know better.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Brave is just too shady

It's amazing how so few people seem to understand that Brave's entire business model is an extortion racket wrapped in a crypto scam.

Of course, both that and the new bullshit described in this article is all just par for the course from the guy who (a) inflicted the abomination that is Javascript upon the world, and (b) got booted from Mozilla for being a bigot.

[-] CamelCityCalamity@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

I found the juxtaposition of your comment to the one below yours to be pretty funny.

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[-] Glitterkoe@lemmy.world 119 points 1 year ago

Tried it for a week or two, but since I reinstalled Firefox I really don't understand why I was judging/hating so much in the past years. Yes, Chrome/ium used to be waaaay faster, but Mozilla just has their shit together most of the time. The Debian of browsers so to speak.

[-] Martenz05@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago

I still remember why: Mozilla fired Brendan Eich, the man who would go on to found Brave, for donating to Christian charities in the politically polarised climate of 2016. After Eich went, they also quietly purged any other employees that showed even a hint of conservative sympathies in their internet presence. They then went on to "experiment" with pushing browser ads on users, and while they eventually ended the experiment because of massive user backlash, they still made no apologies and didn't abandon the idea. Just made a final public response dripping with PR bullshit with a patronising conclusion along the lines of "internet users just aren't ready for this change yet".

[-] laylawashere44 79 points 1 year ago

Brandon Eich was fired because he was constantly giving money to politicians and groups that were advocating for the banning of same sex marriage. Also funding the campaign of congressman Tom McClintock, a certified piece of shit, Who denies climate change, is against LGBTQ rights, and was among the republicans trying to overturn the 2020 election.

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[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Firefox is GOAT, but I do have Brave installed on my phone specifically for playing YouTube. The Brave browser automatically blocks YouTube ads, allows me to play videos in windowed mode, and allows me to play videos with the screen off.

I don’t do anything else in Brave, so I’ll probably hang onto it as basically a YouTube app.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You might want to look into NewPipe then. Lets you do all those things with YT, plus you can also download the videos or their audio only

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[-] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 89 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Their crypto autofill scandal is all one needs to know about this company. If you're marketing your browser as privacy focused and then pull stunts like that you lose all credibility in my eyes. Forever.

Firefox or go bust

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[-] Jim_Greece@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago

That’s why i use Firefox.

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[-] DebraBucket@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One of the founders, Brendan Eich, donated his money to take away the equal right for same-sex couples to marry in California (Prop 8). He never acknowledge that it was mistake, so I can only assume that he truly wants to see the marriages of same-sex couples erased, which is quite a hateful thing to desire.

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[-] Dusty@l.dusty-radio.com 81 points 1 year ago

After their crypto crap, this doesn't surprise me one bit.

And don't give me that "You can disable the crypto" the fact is, you shouldn't have to because it shouldn't have ever been included in the first place.

[-] TheRealNeenja@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago

Seriously, early on this company literally deployed a mass MITM attack against their entire userbase.

Any company that pulls some shit like that is just going to do it again whenever they think they can get away with it.

[-] ultimate_question@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Breaking their users' trust by appending attribution tags to their URLs should've been unforgivable but I still see people pushing their browser online

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

Everyone knows the only safe way to browse is to scrape webpages and print the content to your terminal.

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[-] CaptainHowdy@lemm.ee 57 points 1 year ago

I will never understand why people dont just use firefox and its derrivatives...

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[-] skillissuer@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

wasn't bunching crypto garbage not shady enough?

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Your post just links to its own icon. Did you have an article to link to instead?

[-] amenotef@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

To me Firefox is the best browser.

I use Chrome because I'm lazy to move, I have my stuff synced in there and I use it also with my phone (Google Pixel). But lately I'm considering Firefox more and more. At least I now have it installed in my phone and specifically use it for some stuff.

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[-] Blazingflames6073@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Didn't they do some shady stuff before too? I was pretty confused why some people still recommended it

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[-] Makeshift@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 year ago

Every single one of these Brave "scandals" are so irrelevant and meaningless. I was hoping the reddit hive mind wouldn't be brought over to lemmy, but here we are.

This article, especially after the update from Brave, seems like a huge nothing-burger. Just another excuse for the Firefox Fanatics crowd to rag on Brave and circlejerk each other about how good Firefox is.

The article isn't even about Brave Browser, and it has nothing to do with user data. The website owner is mad that Brave Search is crawling their site and using data in their "Summarizer" feature. I thought Firefox users were supposed to be against the Google internet monopoly, but apparently when it comes to one of the only companies with their own independent and actually decent search engine, they don't seem to care anymore because of stupid "Firefox good brave bad" browser wars nonsense.

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[-] raltoid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

TL;DR: Brave Software has their HQ in California and they are they're stealing data and selling it and giving "rights" to other people. Lawsuits are probably already being filed by multiple companies come monday.

And it's not in an "our AI 'read' the page and is making their own", it's straight up taking entire sentences and almost entire paragraphs from places like wikipedia and selling them as original data without attribution(which is required by the license used by wikimedia/pedia)

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[-] yoz@aussie.zone 33 points 1 year ago

Yea within no time Brave will become evil as hell because the CEO is a silicon valley bro. They just waiting for more people to adapt their product and services.

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[-] cpo@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

It started with widgets showing crypto currency markets.

I immediately noped the hell off it.

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[-] Brochetudo@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago

I can't and won't ever understand why people keep recommending Brave. This is not even the second or third shady shit they pull off.

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[-] gareins@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

Why is everyone mixing search engines and browsers here? This is specifically about the search engine and the problems that api of the search engine has with respecting copyright laws. I use their search engine and dont use their browser

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[-] lightnarcissus@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

I was a big Brave supporter back in 2019-2020 when it seemed to have a lot of momentum behind it. But they squandered any goodwill they had with their crypto add-ons and rewards

[-] MagnusRobotFighter@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

I tried Brave for a couple days but I kept getting notifications from it that were ads. Brave had to go.

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