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[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 168 points 10 months ago

This is starting to get into the "only one joke" territory.

I assume that this stereotype is based on some volume of observation, but it's been dragged and beaten into the ground, and honestly, as someone with decades of professional and enthusiast experience with FOSS, this stereotype just doesn't even strike a chord with me.

In summary, this whole meme is overcooked.

[-] EldritchFeminity 67 points 10 months ago

I think it comes from the other direction. Like, the trans and femboy communities are small, but a high portion of them are in tech jobs and FOSS. So this is a stereotype about trans women and femboys all being into Arch, rather than all Arch users being trans women or femboys.

Still overused, but I can see why since the 3 most active communities I see on Lemmy are Linux users, trans people, and Trekkies.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think you're right about that being the origins of the joke, but the joke is distinctly trying to infer the reverse. Funny in context, but out of context, it's just an obnoxious over-association leaking out of a community.

It's as stupid and culturally braindead as the old 2000s jokes where the entire punchline is the gay guy is flamboyant. haha gay rainbows! Ver funny!

yawn

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

What does a gay horse eat?

Snaps fingers

HHHHHHAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!

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[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 59 points 10 months ago

It never even landed for me. I've NEVER met a trans person or femmy guy in tech. At least not compared to the swathes of the typical unkempt neckbeards.

Though no one wants to make neckbeard jokes, because that one has ALSO been beaten in to the ground... over and over and over and over...

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

I thought no one wanted to make neckbeard jokes because it would summon one to "ummm ackshully" all of us.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Probably both.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Umm ackshually

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[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

As someone who works in tech, my stereotype of "average tech worker" is going to be more like a guy named Praveen (there's two Praveens on my team right now). But tech tends to have a lot of diverse backgrounds, since tech jobs usually care more about what you can do than where you're from or what school you went to.

[-] const_void@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago

Yep. Same with the "I use Arch btw" thing. It's so played out.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Look out folks, its the meme police, come to apply logic and reason to your funny internet pictures!

[-] autoexec 82 points 10 months ago

People here are apparently either foss neckbeards or transfems/femboys, and they are all valid.

[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 13 points 10 months ago

I think there are also cis women and trans men here, maybe? But the uniform for them is a gender neutral invisibility suit.

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[-] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 71 points 10 months ago

I'm glad trans people and non binary people feel comfortable in Linux spaces. Everyone should feel accepted in what is ultimately about computer software. At the same time, I find it a little confusing just how much content seems to find 1:1 equivalence between trans/enby movements and using not-windows.

I really want trans people to feel comfortable here, but I also feel like the frequent repetition of content like this post sort of commoditizes transness. Am I not a valid trans person if I prefer Macs? Am I not a valid Linux user if I'm happy with my AGAB? Again, really happy trans/enby people are happy here, but when we start saying group 1 equals by definition group 2, people from both groups get left out.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

It's an eye roller for me. Feels like a really played out joke at this point but this is the internet where there's apparently no such thing as a dead horse

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Horses went extinct same time shame did.

[-] ThatFembyWho 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You are waaaay overthinking this.

It's a crossover meme from trans/gender-nonconforming spaces. We have ways of finding humor in what is often an frightening and deadly serious situation (being trans in this world).

One of the in-jokes we have that I saw quite a bit on reddit, is that especially trans women and femboys "are all programmers or IT people" and being technical minded, use Linux. (I'm a trans woman who uses Fedora... Hi)

I think there is also the political and economic association that comes with FOSS -- it's a sort of disruption of the norm in capitalism, which is to have proprietary secrets as a store of value. FOSS challenges the notion that the fruits of labor should be privitized. In that sense it's a radical movement, always has been, even if it has been adopted by the world at large.

Trans folk are as a rule, politically left-leaning, it seems these days we must be to exist, and so FOSS like Linux naturally appeals to the community.

Obviously there are going to be many non-technical trans people, and tech trans people alike who use proprietary OSes; and conversely most Linux users aren't trans or GNC. The meme isn't meant to be taken literally or to change anyone's beliefs or actions.

[-] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think that you hit a key note here: it's a crossover meme from other spaces. They're not Linux memes. I do get the joke, and why you make it, and I understand the concept of intersectional solidarity, and that it's a good thing.

I also think that when people who have been marginalized for a long time find spaces that accept them, tend to treat any space that accepts them as a space made "for" them and their issues, when really Linux has nothing to do with what's in my pants or yours or anyones. Linux isn't a men's thing, or a women's thing, or about gender at all.

I (don't) appreciate the fact that instead of empathizing and trying to address my concerns, you're telling me I'm overthinking it, and explaining it to me like I wouldn't understand the concepts of let's see, the meme itself, capitalism, socialism, and FOSS software.

It's a joke, yeah, I get it, but jokes are supposed to be funny and instead this one is using harmful language about trans people and FOSS software. Stop. And don't act like anyone who doesn't agree with you just doesn't get it.

[-] Hubi@feddit.de 52 points 10 months ago

Correction: The Thinkpad is not optional.

[-] drew_belloc@programming.dev 23 points 10 months ago

But that's the only one i don't have, so i can't say i use arch btw anymore?

[-] Hubi@feddit.de 47 points 10 months ago

"You are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of master."

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

Gotta say I've never really understood this meme.

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 10 months ago
[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

I get what the meme is. It does not align with my personal experiences.

[-] vox@sopuli.xyz 28 points 10 months ago
[-] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

I've bene using it for 10yrs. Still just a hairy masculine homo.

[-] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's not okay. What if somebody told you that you'd eventually revert to cisgendered? That'd be very hurtful and rude. Telling this person their sexuality identity will change because you think it should is wrong

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[-] ThatFembyWho 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's OK to personally "not understand" a popular meme (400 updoots at last count). Create and vote for content you really understand.

As a trans woman who exclusively uses Linux and 90% FOSS, avid wearer of thigh highs and skirts, it makes perfect sense.

Something for all of us.

[-] femboy_bird 35 points 10 months ago

That's not accurate, there are other skirt and shirt options, for example a croptop with arm warmers, and dolphin shorts are both acceptable options, the thinkpad can be skipped for a device that has no business running arch such as an ancient mac pro or a dual socket xeon server from a quarter million years ago

[-] moody@lemmings.world 8 points 10 months ago

a dual socket xeon server from a quarter million years ago

Surely you mean a slot-based CPU, of course. All my cool friends run Slot-A.

[-] femboy_bird 5 points 10 months ago

Fuck xeon gold servers all my homies use pentium ii workstations

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[-] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

My kid wears the black version of the socks and the ears but he uses Windows 10. Is he just missing the shirt and other mandatory items?

[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

It's not uncommon for adolescent catgirls to go through an emo phase; being a teenager is hard and they will grow out of using Windows with time.

That said, if you think they are engaging in acts of self harm - such as setting up active directory, or running an exchange server - you should seek professional support

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[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 10 months ago

Yeah, you should get him the other stuff as well. Then he'll automatically download an Arch install and wipe Win10.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago

When did the standard uniform change from a fursuit to this? I wasn't notified.

[-] dopeshark@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Shower (prohibited)

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Ok ok trans and femboys sure. But what does this say about thinkpad users?

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

Still hetero, that pc has a clit

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[-] Manzas@lemdro.id 12 points 10 months ago

Glad I use Debian

[-] Veneroso@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

I find the lack of Gentoo representation disturbing. Download a stage 0 tarball, three pots of coffee, and clear your schedule for the weekend. It's compilin' time!

[-] morice@lemmy.thenewgaming.de 5 points 10 months ago

Nah, stage0 has too much bloat stage -1 ftw

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[-] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 10 months ago

I tolerate no disrespect for Arch users. The Thinkpad is of course not optional. Their Wiki saved me so often, they are forever my hero.

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 10 months ago

I still haven't quite figured out why !unixsocks@lemmy.blahaj.zone exists

[-] femboy_bird 21 points 10 months ago

Someday you will be enlightening

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 10 months ago

Don't get me wrong, I subscribed and I like it, but I'm still confused to hell and back

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[-] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Wait, I always thought the typical Arch user looks like this?

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