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[-] M500@lemmy.ml 124 points 9 months ago

This is so strange. How can people have so little empathy for the lives of innocent people?

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 96 points 9 months ago

Israeli citizens are subjected to daily propaganda (e.g. "there are no civilians in Gaza", "Hamas is ISIS", "Hamas wants to murder all jews", etc.) to legitimize their fascistic policies.

There are a lot of parallels to the US short/y after 9/11.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Same textbooks are being referenced.

"Closest, special" ally and all that jazz.

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune 52 points 9 months ago
[-] LostWon@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's part of Israel's propaganda to make this about religion to invoke irrational "War on Terror" sentiments in people who haven't looked into it that deeply.

In reality, they're dehumanizing and targeting all Palestinian Arabs, including Christians. Hence the shooting up and bombing of churches along with everything else.

Some of them are Kahanists but I don't think religion figures into their motives as a wider group except for scapegoating purposes.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 38 points 9 months ago
[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 34 points 9 months ago

You just need to convince people that the "innocent people" are not people

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago
[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 9 months ago

I don't think the Israeli consented to being brainwashed by Hasbara.

[-] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well to quote the Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”

They think Palestinians are subhuman. Israel has become the evil it once fled.

[-] LostWon@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It amazes me officials can speak like this, yet there are also the widespread reports of organ theft (esp. skin and corneas removed from bodies). Even some reports of blond babies being kidnapped from their families because they're assumed not to be Arab. Where is the cognitive dissonance?

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 19 points 9 months ago

A lot of people's hearts are too full of hatred to hold anything else.

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[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

5% of the population is psychopathic. Folks forget this stat. They also forget that moral competence exists on a spectrum, so that even regular people are capable of great evil, especially in service to their religion.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Maybe they should have a number tatooed on their arms to remind them?

/superdarkhumor

[-] pop@lemmy.ml 54 points 9 months ago

It's only a genocide if the west disagrees with it.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 8 points 9 months ago

Genocide has a pretty strict definition.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

But yet the West refuses to apply it to Gaza, which clearly qualifies...

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

As a member of the West™ I can say pretty much everyone I've spoken to sees it that way.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Then you obviously have not spoken to anyone in charge.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 54 points 9 months ago

All religions are shit. Humanity really needs to shed this primitive baggage already.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 38 points 9 months ago

It's not about religion. It's about settler colonialism.

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[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Bad people will do bad things, sure, but if you want good people to do bad things, you need religion.

[-] splicerslicer@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I'd actually argue the opposite. Religion reigns in bad people. Talk to a religious person, wait until you hear them say something like, "but if there's no god and no afterlife, what's to stop people from murder and rape?" That's all that's holding them back from total anarchy, the threat of eternal suffering and damnation, only for some it's still not enough.

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[-] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I find it interesting when people say this but ignore any wrong doing or suffering caused by secular or atheistic regimes.

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[-] small44@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A bunch of terrorists

[-] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 33 points 9 months ago

The media want us to believe that the Problem with Israel is the far right government, while in reality it is the whole fucking Nation.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

I have known a number of actual Israelis. The majority just wants to live peaceful lives.

This is definitely the MAGA side.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

The polls show that Israelis still overwhelmingly support what's happening in Gaza.

They seem to believe that the only way to live in peace is to kill all Arabs.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

The majority just wants to live peaceful lives.

Problem is what do we define "peaceful lives". You and I think it just means being able to go about our daily lives and just that, but Israelis have been drowning in propaganda. It's like saying "Americans just want peaceful lives right after 9/11/" Sure, but what they think will get them their peaceful lives is an armed invasion and genocide. It was a popular enough view to get Bush reelected.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

If they allow it to continue to happen then they also share blame.

If you despise the infamous Nazi prision guards, you need to despise the Israeli that does not speak/act against genocide.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago

It's really not. It's incredibly rare for a whole population to agree on anything.

Chances are these are their equivalent of MAGA.

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[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 25 points 9 months ago

All the righties in any other situation would be screaming that protesters blocking a road should be run over.

I don't really agree but perhaps we should respect their wishes this one time. 🤔

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago

All the leftists in any other situation would be applauding protesters taking direct action.

I don't really agree but perhaps we should respect their wishes this one time. 🤔

It seems hypocrisy depends on context, doesn't it?

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 6 points 9 months ago

You think I care about some little masturbatory gotcha play, but no - innocent people are suffering and these fucks are trying to keep them from basic necessities like food, water, and medical supplies that have pointedly and explicitly destroyed by Israel - fuck em, take em out.

Apples =/= oranges, no matter how hard you try to run circles around it.

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[-] uriel238 22 points 9 months ago

I suspect every country has their MAGA. And the problem is when it gets to big.

I think when people feel survival precarity, its easy to get into their head they have to hoard what they got from the Others.

That figured pretty largely into the story of Sodom, it didn't end well, albeit by deus ex machina.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

The problem also exists when the middle is content, asleep, or paid off.

[-] occhineri@feddit.de 12 points 9 months ago

Can anyone provide further information?

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago

Kerem Shalom crossing: Israeli protesters hold up aid trucks to Gaza

TLDR: According to Israelis all Palestinians are Hamas so they're justified in killing them through starvation.

[-] Lupus108@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah all I see is a group of people dancing next to a street...

Edit: to the down voters, I was merely describing the information that was available in this thread at the time, which was none except the video. Now that OP has provided sourcing that supported the claims in the title, I am satisfied. Don't trust everything you see on the Internet, unless there is a context that support what is claimed is what I am saying.

[-] GenXcisguy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

Yeah, the article from the BBC should have been posted alongside the video, rather than someone linking it 4 hours after the initial post.

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[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Hamas killed festival goers! The festival goers:

[-] Holyginz@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

That's not a rave. That's fascists celebrating preventing aid for people who they hate because they believe in different skydaddies

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