I would agree, but I kinda got forced to vote for a Republican Warden last election. The previous guy (Dem) and his administration had just overseen the worst case of prisoner deaths in a US jail, and the person the Dems ran to replace him was his deputy warden of the same administration.

The rest of my ticket was solid blue, or green.

Edit: I did look into the republican guy. He at least didn't have huge scandals, just some small acts of assholery

We are lucky they're both old. For a moment a couple years ago I was afraid DeSantis or Haley might actually be the nominee.

He's old, and as a leader he leaves a lot to be desired.

Having said that, he has a pretty good team. He has a lot of competent people in his cabinet, and they've achieved some pretty good things. I wish he'd run more on the strength of his team, rather than himself.

Trump can never run on the strength of his team because his team are incompetent sycophants. The only thing that matters to him is loyalty, so he'll reward loyalty with cabinet positions. He can't even name a cabinet because he's so fickle that a rumour will come that someone said something bad and he'll throw one of his cabinet members under the bus.

I don’t think it’s particularly ageist to say that octogenarians should generally be avoided for a 4 year commitment to leadership roles. It’s no more ageist than barring 16 year olds from the job imo.

That said, in a battle between risky to lose competence midway and blatantly incompetent now the former always wins

This right here. He didn't have to run again. Right now he needs our support and deserves at least a hardy thanks of appreciation. He came out of retirement to stop trump and the maggats. If I could buy him a beer or a very expensive scotch I would.

I don't think septics is the right word but I am also high

He can't do the job. He's a terrible candidate and he's not mentally fit. His only qualification is that he's not openly fascist. Definitely vote for the not fascist, but that won't stop fascism in the long run.

Being forced to choose between senile and psychotic is fucking bullshit, and I'm sick of being told to just suck it up.

Providing the weapons for a genocide is not doing the job.

Ignoring people saying we won't vote for genocide with the strategy of 'Vote Harder!' is stupid and dangerous if you believe the alternative is the end of democracy.

Edit: people here are mad at the people saying 'we won't vote for genocide' but not at the person directly responsible for the mass murder of babies.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

To all those downvoting or responding with "he's all we have", be honest: fucking outright say "I'm willing to have babies slaughtered to prevent Trump." That is a choice you are making. Have the courage of your convictions and say it out loud.

Look at the cost you are paying without flinching.

His age is irrelevant. Can he do the fucking job?

His age is the main reason that he can't do the job particularly well.

Clearly it is because 4 years ago, when Biden was 77 the election didn't revolve around age.

I'm just going to throw it out that I think people are only looking at the first number and don't care about the second one, kinda like in stores 9.99 seems much cheaper than 10.00 despite the actual difference only being a penny. It's not a 77 year old vs an 81 year old, it's 70 year old vs 80 year old. 70 year old is an old man, 80 year old is your demented grandpa.

Unfortunately, they are kind of right at least in terms of this coming election. The best thing we can do is to try to get the fascists out, then come January 20th, 2025 at 12:01pm, take them all to task and demand that they make good on their promises. Protests, rallies...hell, riots even...just make them understand that they serve at our behest and make them earn their keep. But we have to get through November first.

Speak for yourself I'm happy to have Biden again.

I agree, but the reality is that it's the system we have right now. We can try to change it. But sitting this election out or voting for a third party will only help Trump get elected. I said in another comment (and got downvoted for it) but I would vote for a ham sandwich over Trump.

It's worse than you think. Point out how we don't actually have two choices and the party front liners come out and say a vote not for their party is in reality a vote for the other party. Then they say, "[blah, blah, blah] vote like us or the world will literally end." I'm not sure if they are serious anymore.

No. But we have to work with what we got.

They've tried telling people all the accomplishments and good things he's done, but the media and whiners on the internet only focus on the negative.

Biden's like a hunk of old, hard cheese with a little mold on it: you can still stomach it if you cut off (ignore) the bad part. Trump is horse shit in the shape of cheese with lots of orange food coloring.

What's a realistic way to get out of a 2-party system?

Keep in mind that any change will require that the party in power enacts it, and they're one of the two parties in the two party system. Also, keep in mind that US elections are "first past the post", so voting for a third party weakens the candidate you otherwise would have considered.

Because it was another number. No need to be obtuse.