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Police Say the Lakewood Church Shooter Was Cis. The Right Keeps Saying She Was Trans (www.them.us)

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The suspect in the Texas megachurch shooting on Sunday was not transgender, officials have confirmed. But that hasn’t stopped Republican politicians and conservative media from pushing yet another “trans mass shooter” conspiracy theory.

The shooting occurred on February 11, when 36-year-old Genesse Ivonne Moreno allegedly opened fire in Lakewood Church, a large evangelical megachurch in Houston where Joel Osteen serves as senior pastor. Police say they shot and killed Moreno in the ensuing gunfight, during which two others were also “shot in the crossfire” and wounded, including Moreno’s seven-year-old son, according to the Associated Press.

Barely a day after the shooting, right-wing politicians and pundits lined up to claim Moreno was a deranged trans woman, based only on now-debunked evidence. On X, formerly Twitter, anti-LGBTQ+ propagandist Chaya “Libs of TikTok” Raichik claimed that the Lakewood shooting was “[a]nother act of trans terrorism,” and accused “the LGBTQ movement [of] turning youth into violent extremists.” Others swiftly followed suit: Missouri Rep. Josh Hawley wrote Moreno was “a transgender, pro-Palestine radical,” and Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene simply called her “a trans from El Salvador.” Donald Trump Jr. and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz also boosted the claims on social media this week.

As The Advocate also noted, a Fox News article on Tuesday also claimed Moreno was transgender, but the article was later edited to walk back that claim, after police clarified there was no evidence to support it. (Raichik, Greene, and Cruz’s posts were still online at time of writing.)

The notion that Moreno was trans may have come from confusion over aliases police said Moreno used, as well as names under which she was previously charged. Analysis by the watchdog group Media Matters found that MSNBC also reported Moreno was trans on Tuesday, appearing to draw their information from initial police reports.

Multiple court records dating back as far as 2005 indicate that Moreno always identified herself as a woman regardless of her name, the AP reported, and an attorney who previously represented her said there was “no indication” she was trans. During a press conference this week, police also confirmed that Moreno was the biological mother of the seven-year-old who was critically injured in the shooting.

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[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago

Even if she WAS trans...what's their fucking point? That makes what...2 trans shooters...total?

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 38 points 10 months ago

Their point is to try to prove that transexual personality can be defined as psychologically disturbed. They're pedophiles, they're mass shooters, they rape women in the bathroom... Any straw they can grasp at to build their bullshit narrative.

[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 months ago

They're pedophiles, they're mass shooters, they rape women in the bathroom...

This description ironically fits a cisgender republican with very little coloring outside the lines.

[-] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Wait until these people hear about Christians

[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well, if they were arguing in good faith using that standard, it sounds like we'd need to start rounding up cishet guys across the board...by far the most pedophilia, mass shootings and rape are committed by my fellow cishet guys. Send us all to the camps!

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

WE GET TO GO CAMPING??? Being a straight, white male is THE BEST!!! I hope there'ren't bears out there. Bears are scary...

[-] motorwerks@sopuli.xyz 10 points 10 months ago

Regardless of the number, & % of total, I still don't understand the point. What does gender identification have to do w/ mass murder?

[-] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 22 points 10 months ago

Gender self-identification is politicized in the US because a not insignificant percentage of the population believes those who self-identify and orient themselves as anything other than strictly hetero-cis-normative are deserving of legal subjugation, otherization, and dehumanization.

[-] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Because the conservative Right needs to grasp at literally anything to scare their voters into submission, otherwise they might start wondering what the Republicans are actually bringing to the table.

[-] moitoi@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

It's advertisement. They use the same strategy as advertisers. They don't care it it's true or false. They want that people read and speak about them and to do so they need to target a minority. The advantage of targeting a minority is that they will create a sense of common among some people. And, to maintain and have new follower, they need to advertise the BS on a regular basis.

And, they will repeat the same process with an other minority once the previous doesn't work anymore. It's working because it's an easy answer to issues of the people.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

It's modern "blood libel."

[-] GluWu@lemm.ee 55 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

While neither talks about how the only fatalities other than the shooter were by the cops shooting a 7 year old in the head.

[-] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Holy fuck there is not enough therapy in the world to ever get over that. That's so incredibly fucked.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago

“The right” is a menagerie of mentally defective degenerates.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

The politically correct term is deplorable.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

Right-wingers downplay and deny the end-results of their rhetoric. News at 11.

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Lest we get bogged down with the notion cis or trans this only happens at this frequency in America.

[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Conservatards: "did you check the genitals? Can I get pics?"

[-] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

For science! /s

[-] TakiMinase@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 months ago

Authoritarians love to watch people in the toilet. Think about this. They are into pee & poop.

[-] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

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[-] Jordan_U@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

Multiple school officials in the U.S. have asked children to pee in front of them to prove that they're "actually a boy".

One principle literally kicked in the door of a highschool bathroom stall that a trans kid was actively using (to fucking pee / poop).

Genital inspections have been asked for (I hope not actually done) in children's sports competitions.

This is really happening, and transphobic rhetoric is driving it.

Every woman friend I have would feel much safer being in a bathroom with a trans woman than with a trasphobe; Especially the butch lesbians.

[-] jzzvid 2 points 10 months ago

Most conservatives are pedophiles or other abusers. Abuse is what they are conserving.

[-] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

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[-] jzzvid 4 points 10 months ago

If it isn't pedophilia it's something else: beating their wives, their children, other forms of abuse such as neglect. The GOP literally has attempted numerous times to revoke age of consent laws, laws against child marriage, and child labor laws.

Conservative parents are outspoken about their "right" to abuse their kids through depriving them of necessity or beating them.

The GOP is a party of domestic abusers.

[-] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, OP sounds like they're taking the SM rhetoric literally and running with it. That's unhealthy, and why I also push against such rhetoric myself.

I, too, like to poke fun at politicians, but at the end of the day, I know a lot of people on both sides of the aisle (most of my family are conservatives, many of my coworkers are progressives), and none exhibit any of the signs OP is talking about.

Pedophiles et al are a tiny portion of the public, Republicans are at most half, so the numbers just will not add up. Also, it turns out most people don't agree with the rhetoric prominent people in their party spew, they're just there because they think their party's policies are the direction the nation should go. My family held their noses and voted for Trump, my coworkers held theirs and voted for Clinton/Biden, neither group actually likes their representatives...

[-] Chuymatt@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago

Trans is the new Jew for the right.

[-] TakiMinase@slrpnk.net 7 points 10 months ago

A convenient "other" indeed.

[-] ULS@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh thank got her gender and sexuality has been decided. I for one couldn't sleep until I knew.

[-] SpeakingColors@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

I gather that the "conversation" point is whether being trans has an impact on judgement or something? Because differing from a perceived social norm is an incorrect choice people make..

I wonder if they would feel better if they found out the zodiac killer was cis?

[-] Pulptastic@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago

What about Osteen? I am guessing that he made it safely to his private jet?

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