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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Suozzi is a staunch supporter of Israel and is leaning into his pro-Israel bona fides. His opponent, Republican candidate Mazi Pilip, also has pro-Israel credentials: She served in the Israel Defense Forces. On Tuesday, Suozzi bucked President Joe Biden and Democratic Party leaders when he announced his support for a House Republican bill that would give additional assistance to Israel.

Buy both sides and you'll never lose.

"Moderates" and republicans agree on a lot of stuff, that's why they both hate progressives more than anything else.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Moderates (the Democratic party) punch left while running only on the premise that they are better than Republicans. The result is that we have slid further and further to the right. This has been the last 40 years. They must unapologetically embrace leftist solutions in their platform to shift us back, but that would be problematic for the corporate overlords that control both parties. The neoliberal notion that change must be exceedingly slow is such hogwash and only benefits those in power.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

FDR wanted M4A 80 years ago...

Moderates said he had to wait for his second term to do something so big, he got elected again so they still opposed it and then worked with Republicans to set term limits and get rid of him.

80 years later and our "most progressive president in living history" is saying that we need to wait longer for M4A, but most of the time tries to ignore it.

I don't understand how people try to claim were not sliding right, it's been happening longer than we've been alive. Almost even longer than Biden has been alive.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Hate, as an emotion, is usually a feature of the extremes. Moderates are about compromise, even with things you hate. This is what you hate about them. They do not hate you though, they want to compromise with you.

Your hate is one-way, it is not returned.

edit: Wow, really unpopular. I'm serious though, moderates don't hate you. They just don't want to give you everything. They want to give all their constituent factions some things. Remember, compromise is a state where no party is perfectly happy, just, everyone gets something.

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 17 points 8 months ago

This is the fundamental flaw with conceiving of politics as points on a line. "Moderates" aren't actually in the middle of things. They are their own political philosophy. But it's not as though you add communism and fascism together and divide by two and you get neoliberalism. They are all distinct philosophies.

[-] ralphio@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Yeah there's this push to equate "moderate" with "unbiased" and therefore above the fray of politics. But you're spot on with your assessment.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, and throwing in economic vs political classifications doesn't simplify anything either.

[-] OutForARip@lemmy.ca 13 points 8 months ago

thats the last thing the world needs is more GOP support your always welcome up north if you need to flee

[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

There are no "centrists", only nazis in a cowardly clown suit.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

That district is one of the biggest Jewish populations in the country. Big shocker from the Intercept.

[-] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's just a blatant hit piece against the Democratic candidate days before an election in a shameless attempt to suppress left wing turnout and try to help the Republican candidate win. They did spend an entire sentence glossing over the existence of the Republican in the race, though:

His opponent, Republican candidate Mazi Pilip, also has pro-Israel credentials: She served in the Israel Defense Forces.

Yes, that's right; the Republican candidate was an actual fucking IDF paratrooper. And the Intercept wanted her to win because of delusional fantasies of an anti-Israel progressive winning the Democratic primary in June and then going on to win the general against (the now incumbent) pro-Israel Republican moderate in a moderate, pro-Israel district; fantasies that could not come true if the Democrat was incumbent.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Correct, and I did upvote, but it appears there are some that are unfriendly with the truth.

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