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submitted 1 year ago by derf82@lemmy.world to c/reddit@lemmy.ml

It appears API rate limiting has effectively killed these alternatives. You essentially get nothing but “Too many requests” 429 errors.

Lemmy sadly does not have the active niche news and discussions I want. But now nothing can be read without going to Reddit. I hate Spez

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[-] pe1uca@lemmy.pe1uca.dev 54 points 1 year ago

I just started using rss for the communities I still want to know about.
You only need to add the reddit name of the community and .rss at the end in your reader.
For example https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/hot.rss

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago

Then come post the interesting ones here!

[-] inasaba@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

RSS feeds started throwing 429 errors today, like I predicted. They were never going to leave this loophole open.

[-] pe1uca@lemmy.pe1uca.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Which reader are you using?
I'm selfhosting FreshRSS and it keeps working

[-] inasaba@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago
[-] pe1uca@lemmy.pe1uca.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Wait, what?
Then how do you know it's started to throw errors if you're not reading rss?

[-] inasaba@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Multiple people have reported 429 errors.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Is there any way to get sorting? Biggest problem seems to be that RSS is chronological only. Also, it doesn’t seem to provide any of the comments.

[-] abaixodecao@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Not the most privacy-friendly option, but I use RSS in Inoreader.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 25 points 1 year ago

There's that one Lemmy instance that has a bot that posts content scrapped from Reddit, I forgot the name though.

[-] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know some people don't like these bots, but I'm keen on the cross posting. Bringing the idea to this platform and then people can discuss it. It's mostly the discussions that have the best value anyway 🦙

[-] lohrun@fediverse.boo 19 points 1 year ago

I think the idea of having crossposted content is ok since you can opt in or out of seeing it, just looked through the instance though and it seems like nobody is interacting with the content at all. For me, my favorite part of the posts on Reddit was reading through the conversations in the comments. Imo, if nobody is interacting with the content that is being crossposted we shouldn’t bother with continuing to copy it over

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It seems to mostly cover the big subs.

[-] judasferret@aussie.zone 12 points 1 year ago

Just request the ones you want here and it will start syncing them. Make sure you subscribe after the communities are made (takes a few minutes) or the dev will disable the bot on those communities. The more people who subscribe, the more often it checks for updates. https://lemmit.online/c/requests

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !requests@lemmit.online

[-] linucs@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[-] derf82@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
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[-] MarsAgainstVenus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Did you request him to a add the ones you want?

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 14 points 1 year ago

Be the change you want to see.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Talking to myself about niche topics like bourbon, civil engineering, my local city and state, and what not is boring. There just isn’t the user base here to have active discussions on such narrow topics.

[-] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

So you expect others to create these spaces an will only join them when they have enough users? Hen? egg?

[-] StoicMaverick@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I know where you're coming from. Give it some time. This whole thing sucks, but it'll get sorted out eventually.

[-] nonearther@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

How come Focus for Reddit is still working? Even NSFW is unblocked there

[-] Generator@lemmy.pt 7 points 1 year ago

The app is still using the dev API token, the dev didn't revoke the token and created a new one for the API changes.
If it's abandoned the app will continue to work.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Generator@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago

The developer

[-] ramplay@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

But now nothing can be read without going to Reddit

I'm here right now! Reading to my hearts content

[-] macallik@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Go to the settings, ping the instances, and add a handful with good ping.

I cycle through 3-4 instances using the keyboard shortcut (Ctrl + Alt + L is the default but you can change it via your brower's extension settings) and usually find one that's up and running.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I usually just go to an instance itself. Sounds like you are using an extension?

[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 5 points 1 year ago

if you really want reddit use old reddit or still working libreddit instances

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I was trying to avoid giving reddit traffic.

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[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

See I thought that Beehaw.org was the Lemmy instance for news, as it's supposed to be a well moderated instance, am I incorrect in that assumption?

Also it would be nice if Beehaw's mods approved my account so that I could use that instance for those purposes. I've been trying to get an account created with them for almost a month now.

I'm like you OP, my main focus on Reddit was staying up-to-date on the most current events and technology/science based posts, the sort I generally used on Reddit was "Top this Hour" because that seemed to be the most reliable and up-to-date hourly news as the news rolled in.

Another thing that helped greatly was Reddit is Fun's content filtering capabilities. Because who tf wants to read some bullshit from Fox News or other severely corrupted and biased news sources

[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

Beehaw isn't great to be a source for news since they defederated two of the largest (from what I can tell) instances.

[-] ribboo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Create an account at lemm.ee. Great instance and federated with beehaw, so you can enjoy the content if you wish.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

See I thought that Beehaw.org was the Lemmy instance for news, as it’s supposed to be a well moderated instance, am I incorrect in that assumption?

I just started a US and World news community on my instance (had federation issues with Beehaw and a lot of stuff randomly didn't come through in either direction, especially comments/replies). I contributed to the moderation policies they use for their news sub, and the community I put together has even tougher standards than that.

If you're interested, here's a post I put together with the standards for posts and the moderation policies we use: https://dubvee.org/post/58845

Community link: /c/news@dubvee.org

I feel guilty plugging my own community, but if Beehaw isn't an option (they really are well modded), then I hope for this to be the next best thing. I've found the other existing news communities to be somewhat lacking in proper moderation and source vetting.

[-] Crazyfrog@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

Im not sure I agree here, I host my own libreddit instance and I have no issues with rate limits. I would highly recommend going your own instance if you can

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I have checked multiple instances, and everyone has the same trouble. And I have no idea how to host my own instance.

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[-] tinwhiskers@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Creating a new sub so I'm a moderator brought Boost back to life. Maybe that will help here?

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Well, Reddit is practically dead, too. Just give it another six months or so of bad decision making, and whenever that IPO is going to drop.

[-] manwithabox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Just wait, the devs will find a way.

[-] Cyyy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

difficult till almost impossible. i recently started coding my own client for reddit (i wanted a way to still get nsfw content when thirdparty clients go dead), and reddit is fucking annoying as hell. everything you do.. they smash issues towards you. every time shitty 429 errors (rate limiting) even if you are logged in. just using a useragent of a normal browser gets you ratelimited. so spoofing a normal browser don't works. sending a bit too much requests (like the Stealth app who is basically a parser for reddits website) gets your device ip banned. if you then open reddit in browser, they smash a error in your face that basically says "fuck you, we think you are a bot. gtfo.".

bypassing this rate limiting is almost impossible even if you try to spoof a browser. i tried the last few days and just gave up because its too annoying and buggy. the whole system of reddit is so annoying as a developer to work with.

it annoyed me so much, that i now think about making the app not for reddit but for lemmy. because reddit sucks. hard. fuck them.

[-] manwithabox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I was trying to be positive,but after reading their announcement on github not so much anymore. Thank you for explaining in deep way is not possible to find a workaround.

[-] Cyyy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

the biggest issue is that they detect thirdparty clients coded as a website parser on their server and just block you. and bypassing this isn't really working well because of the rate limiting.

example: i just did send 3 requests where i first logged in, then asked for the recent posts of a sub.. and already after this 2 requests i got rate limited by error 429 and couldn't send any requests anymore.

so even just requesting the recent posts in a sub is an issue (with spoofed browser useragent). if you use a "legit" useragent it works better, but reddit exactly knows you're using a thirdparty client and can block or ban you whenever they feel like. so it's not really a good solution because every minute reddit could hit the killswitch. just not worth the time to develope a app if it gets killed off then anyway.

[-] manwithabox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago
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[-] AndreTelevise@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Libreddit does work, but not all instances of it do.

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