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Seems to me the fear of overloading one instance over another will not happen after all.

But I do hope the Threadiverse can hit 500,000 consistent active users by the end of summer.

Give me that hopium guys! 💉

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[-] Beefcake@lemmy.fmhy.ml 104 points 1 year ago

I wonder how many people created an alt and just wound up using it more than their original.

[-] netburnr@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

I like alts so I can watch the new feeds

[-] buffalo@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hi! :) new user here after 10 years on r*ddit

What does being a new user have to do with seeing new feeds? Also is there a new user guide anywhere?

Edit: Also lol can you view my saved posts or is that only something I can view?

I have the option on the app to view other people’s saved stuff but it’s blank

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[-] SomethingBurger@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I created my Lemmy.world account when Beehaw defederated, and it's now my main.

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[-] errer@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

Honestly excellent news, there should be no center to this new universe.

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[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If everyone already here just stays here, I'd be happy. We've already hit a nice place.

Lemmy is not a business, so it doesn't necessarily need a constant influx of new users. Sustainability is based on user experience, not endless growth.

Edit: actually last sentence kind of dumb. Sustainability based on keeping the servers running and user experience.

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[-] Brahm1nmam@lemmy.sdf.org 54 points 1 year ago

The fuck did you just call this? The threadiverse? Nu-uh, fuck the meta fucks, this is the Fediverse.

[-] ClarkDoom@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Please leave knee-jerk reactions on Reddit. There’s no reason to talk to people like that.

[-] UhBell@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I'm really having hard time grasping what goes through people's minds when deciding to be so damn aggressive off the bat. We're all just trying to have a good time here.

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[-] Brahm1nmam@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 year ago

Ah shit, I'll eat my crow. I'm new here, sorry for the ill-informed jackassery

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago

It's not a bad name. It's the fediverse, but for threaded conversation. The threadiverse nickname has been floating around far longer than Meta's rushed Twitter clone.

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[-] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

I imagine any time a given server's quality drops, people will just move to another one. I had login issues for a few days on lemmy.world and started using lemmy.ml.

I think its a good thing, healthy for the ecosystem that there's not only redundancy where one site having a moment doesn't kill everyone's ability to use lemmy, and also provides a clear incentive for individual servers to provide good service.

[-] _spiffy@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

I went from beehaw to lemmy.world and then to lemmy.ca all good changes and am very happy with lemmy.ca as my home base.

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[-] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

Did you just call it the "Threadiverse"?? dafuq?

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

I found out about that term yesterday. It means lemmy/kbin. And only those two together.

Idk

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[-] QHC@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

I haven't fully settled on a "home" instance yet.

I bounce around between Lemmy.world, Beehaw and Kbin the most. As things stabilize with the various software updates and federation between instances gets worked out I will probably settle on one, but I could also see jumping to more niche instances (really hoping a sports-related instance like Fanaticus takes off) being the long term strategy, too.

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[-] CumBroth@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I created an account on lemmy.world before I'd understood how the Fediverse works. Later on I went and searched for a smaller instance that's better aligned with my interests and whose moderation I was happy with, and I ~~abandoned lemmy.world~~ (Edit: Bad choice of words here. I still subscribe to communities on lemmy.world; I just stopped using the account I had created there). It had served its purpose well as a landing zone for a Fledditor like me.

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[-] syntax@unilem.org 30 points 1 year ago

I think users are jumping over to instances that more fit their personal values. Its why I left lemmy.world and created unilem.org. An instance for no defederation. It might not be for everyone. But i prefer to be able to access everything in one place and do thr moderation/blocking on the user level.

[-] JeffCraig@citizensgaming.com 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are many instances that have 50k+ bot accounts because they didn't protect their sign-ups. Those instances should be defederated by everyone until they get cleaned up.

Not de-federating for political reasons is a personal preference and one that you are free to have, but if you aren't protecting the fediverse from security risks like bot swarms, you're doing more harm than good.

[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not de-federation for political reasons is a personal preference

There is also defederating for legal reasons.

You may not want to risk someone on your instance subscribing to a community on some other instance that publishes content illegal in your jurisdiction and have your instance keep a copy of it.

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[-] DharkStare@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

They're probably leaving due to all the problems this instance has been having. I've only just recently been able to log back in after several days of it just refusing to let me in. Although I'm not sure if it's an instance issue or a Lemmy issue since mastodon.world has been working just fine with no issues.

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[-] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Probably because lemmy.world stops working with half the apps every other day. Some days I can only use it with Thunder, other times only Jeroba, other days it works with every app except Liftoff. There's just no predictable pattern to it and I've found myself just avoiding lemmy.world lately because I don't want to type out a 3 paragraph comment just to find that my app isn't logging in to lemmy.world today.

heh, would you look at that. It won't let me post this comment on Jeroba so I had to log in with a browser. This is fuckin bullshit. I'm going back to sh.itjustworks until this gets fixed.

[-] gila@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

If it's the same issue as me, you just need to logout/login inside the app. JWT secrets had to be rotated following a recent exploit, and the apps I'm using haven't accounted for this case. Liftoff still thought I was logged in for example, but as far as the instance was concerned I wasn't. No issues after I logged out/in manually.

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[-] meatmeat@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Still not sure I get how this all works. I am using the Memmy app. Created a login with lemmy.world. How do I see threadiverse? Can I do it from Memmy? I tried to search threadiverse on Memmy but there’s nothing there. Am I doomed to never fully comprehend this?

[-] DoucheAsaurus@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago

You're on it bro, I'm on kbin browsing this post. We can all see and talk to each other.

[-] tj111@lemmy.fmhy.ml 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly people talk too much about the fediverse and federation to newbies and it creates this false barrier to entry. Here's this person, commenting on a post not knowing shit about how it works or where it's from. You don't really need to know about all of that stuff to get going. Just go to any of the instances and get browsing.

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[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 25 points 1 year ago

I'm not surprised. Lemmy.world seemed to be the default, but you're now seeing subs from Reddit coming over with their own instances and others realizing it might be better to make their own instances with blackjack and hookers.

[-] dr_doomscroller@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

if lemmy.world won't let me freely use my vpn i'll seek out another server.

[-] Rengoku2@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 year ago

I have done it and you should too.

Timeout for no reason, getting logged out for no reason.

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[-] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

I think a problem for new users is failing to understand how the Fediverse works. It's not something apparent and not something you can expect everyone to understand right off the bat. A user may start out on a heavily loaded instance and get discouraged by poor response. They either figure out they need to find a better instance or base their opinion of the whole on that one experience and give up altogether.

Lemmy.ml and lemmy.world can suffer from heavy user load and bog down at times. That situation can be avoided by selecting an instance that's not too heavily loaded. There's a large number to choose from. It may be necessary to shop around for a good one. In technical terms, find a regionally local instance with low hops, fast ping, and good server response. Also admin settings and quality can be a consideration. I actually signed up on four instances before I found one I really liked.

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[-] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I'm really grooving on multiple instances. I like that Beehaw and kbin offer meaningfully different audiences and experiences.

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[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Lemmy.world had problems since day 1 for me. When you get to a smaller fully updated sever like lemm.ee the service is excellent and you see how good Lemmy is.

[-] tron@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Shh!!! lemm.ee is slow and overloaded, no need to register here. 👀

[-] scuczu@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

as long as you can still subscribe to those communities on other instances it doesn't matter.

[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

That's the intended effect. With the current population on Lemmy/Kbin, most instances are still generalist in nature. People will naturally gravitate to the instance with admins who are best aligned with their personal needs, and I expect badly managed instances to simply turn into Voat and die out, as well as more topic specific instances like MTGzone or startrek website to pop up.

[-] ToNIX@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

I have an account on lemmy.world, but when I ping it, I'm in the 100ms. I ended up on lemmy.ca where the ping is 3ms average, it makes a big difference in responsiveness.

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[-] seperis@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I kind of think that's how it's supposed to go in my made-up-right-this-second knowledge of the evolution of open source Federated social media sites. Pick the largest/most active/most variety to get your feet wet and make any weird mistakes you need to make in a crowd where you're one of many and sheer speed of posting means you'll be forgotten in like, hours. Then you get comfortable and see if this is a forever-fit or just a okay-right-now fit.

I mean, I hard-bond to my first and pretty much settle immediately for life unless something is seriously awry, but even I made a backup in another one that I mirrored all my favorite communities in and I am seriously getting one more in a smaller, more specialized server. Yes, I do get the point of Federated, you do not need to explain, but here's the thing: intellectually I know that actually, the population of the Fediverse is orders of magnitude smaller than reddit or pretty much any other social media site, but feelings do not agree: Reddit was like a large, slightly hostile country with a lot of states you avoided always but especially between dusk and dawn; the scope of Fediverse is like being on a very small planet in an expanding universe you can watch growing in real time and it never stops. It's great, but there's something very unsettling realizing you're eight servers from home surrounded by kpop or wake up to find you posted in three communities in servers you don't recognize at two AM and if you can get a reputation for that kind of thing.

My ADHD is living the dream, let's go, but I can see how it would throw people a little.

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[-] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This instance took a "wait and see" stance to Meta. It lost a lot of subreddit modteams when it did, who are now pushing their userbases to the comms they've made in other lemmys by putting up links and sticky posts in their old subreddits.

I have several subreddits where our teams argued internally about it, we were mostly in support of coming here until the instance was soft on Meta.

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[-] witx@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

That's a good thing. Keep the fediverae alive without overemcumbering servers. That's what's so strong about it, we can keep growing without too much costs.

[-] nyternic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

So I have a vague understanding of this.

I tried going to another server when I read something about a lemmy instance turning down FB. I go there and I'm prompted to make yet another account to use that instance.

Does this mean, that I need to make a new log-in per instance, per server just to use it? If so, that's entirely exhausting for me to keep track and I already have an abundance of accounts as is, to where I had to make a document that records every account with every password. We need an internet where it's less of that.

[-] thegiddystitcher@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hey, you're getting some well-meaning but quite confusing answers on this so I'll try and sum up:

  • Each instance / server is its own self-contained thing, so yes if you want to change which instance you use as your home you'd need to set up a new account on it. But...
  • You DO NOT need to do this just to join and interact with communities from other instances, you can do that from your lemmy.world account
  • Some people are uncomfortable with the idea of .world potentially federating with Threads down the line, so are pre-emptively making the jump to another instance

There are other reasons to have multiple accounts, for example I have one account that is mostly subbed to gaming stuff and then I have this account that is mostly subbed to crafting stuff, because I like to have the two separate subscription feeds. I did the same thing over on Reddit, on Mastodon, etc etc. Some people have a dedicated NSFW account. Whether you personally have a use case for multiple accounts, or whether you personally want to steer clear of any potential future federation with Threads, is up to you.

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[-] Tsouintsouin@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago

You need a password manager like Bitwarden

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[-] BeakEm420@ttrpg.network 14 points 1 year ago

I signed up for TTRPG network, not realizing I also can access Lemmy through it! To be honest I don't know a lot about how the fediverse works at all but so far I like what I'm seeing. Reminds me of reddit circa 2009. In fact, I think this is going to replace my use of Reddit altogether, as it definitely serves the purpose of providing endless content to scroll to.

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[-] Surp@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Question, does it matter? Arent we all part of this universe so it doesnt matter right? Im still sorta confused how all this stuff works.

[-] Sl00k@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Distributing evenly prevents a few things:

  • Increasing server cost on a single instance host
  • Less reliance on a single instance means, the single instance is less likely to fuck over their members (via advertising or data sharing)
  • Less likely of a situation where one instance can create a sort of monopoly of Lemmy communities and take them private via defederation, leading everyone to join that singular Lemmy instance to see the content.
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