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[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

For my fellow Americans: That's 118.4 degrees Fahrenheit. Fun fact: That's also the temperature of Satan's taint.

[-] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Just a Sunday afternoon in Phoenix. Hope it's at least a dry heat there or they'll sail over wet bulb max easily, though I'm fairly sure southern Italy does get that hot in July.

[-] OverfedRaccoon@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

The difference is, most people in Phoenix have air conditioners. The danger, aside from the heat itself, is that there is little refuge other than going to a place that does have AC, which isn't an option for everyone.

[-] HamSwagwich@showeq.com 9 points 1 year ago

There a really good point. We take the AC for granted mostly, while it's an usual sight in many parts of Europe.

[-] Ghoelian@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean it's mostly an unusual sight in parts of Europe because they don't need AC's, they need heating instead.

Most parts of Europe (that I've been to) where it gets hot have AC.

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[-] jalda@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

Why do Americans always believe that Europe is a homogeneous entity? ACs are rare in the north of Europe. But as an Spaniard currently living in the north of Italy, I can asure you that ACs are super common in both countries.

[-] OverfedRaccoon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Part of it is ignorance. Part of it is scale. And part of it is our media (and anecdotal posts) saying that many Europeans (as a whole) don't have AC in their homes, which is why the heat waves are so dangerous. I'm sure it's annoying, but it's kind of like an American getting annoyed if a European only thought of the US as a whole and not per state, as states are comparable in autonomy and size to most European countries. I wouldn't expect you to know specifics - New York is very different than Florida, which is very different than Iowa, which is different than Alabama, which is very different than California, etc. Hell, the main regions of California alone are all very different from each other.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Since it's southern Italy, I think it's a given that the humidity will be high. This is going to pass right over "miserable" and on into "dangerous."

[-] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

48 degrees Celsius (predicted temp) and 53% humidity (the humidity in Southern Italy today) is a wet bulb temperature of 38.52 degrees Celsius. In the danger zone.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah, holy shit, that's really bad. A wet-bulb temperature above 32 C is considered unsafe for normal outdoor activity levels.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Ahh yes. Very normal temperatures. Super slow onset indicative of periodic warming of the planet over thousands of years. Definitely not man made. Nothing to be concerned about.

[-] Kekzkrieger@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Deniers will still keep arguing that thats normal nice hot summer days they can enjoy. People are dilusional

[-] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

I’m sure all this is fine.

[-] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

NEw noRmAL!¡!

[-] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

The temperature getting that high in July in southern Italy is apparently fairly common, but no things are not fine. This just isn't necessarily an example. The 3"+ per hour rain New England is getting this weekend is probably a better example of "not fine" as that's highly unusual.

[-] RufusLoacker@feddit.it 13 points 1 year ago

Where did you read that? The higest temperature recorded in Italy was 48.8°C in Sicily in 2021. Southern Italy is hot, yes, but whats is considered "farly common" is 40-42°C in August, not July, and not 48°C

[-] forsen@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I think they were being sarcastic...

[-] BeardyGrumps@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Has a mini hurricane in my old town in Southern Germany yesterday. Blew the roof off a supermarket. (Was a Netto so only 52€ of damage to stock was done)

[-] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

New England never gets heavy rain?

[-] sabbath@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

In the last year did I learn about 312852952 different kinds of clouds which are all apparently nOrMaL.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 36 points 1 year ago

Quickly, let's elect more fashists that tell us that the climate catastrophy is a lie!

[-] MetaPhrastes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

As an Italian, that was indeed a good one! 😅😅😅 Sad but true, maybe people think to solve the problem like that here.

[-] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

This could well be a plot by Northern Italy to get rid of the South.

[-] richyawyingtmv@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

It was 38°c the last time I went to Pisa (five years ago now, fuck) and that was utterly miserable at times. Can't even begin to imagine 10°c on top of that.

[-] Pisodeuorrior@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Pisa is notoriously shit during the summer, it's in the middle of a valley and a big slow river runs through it. The humidity in Pisa is insane, and mosquitoes are active 24/7.

My sister lives there and I refuse to visit from June to September.

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[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

The elderly and otherwise vulnerable should be spending a lot of time in the bathtub with lukewarm or even cool water. It's unfortunate, but this deadly heat wave is looking to be the new normal.

[-] fearout@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Oh crap. Does anyone know what the humidity range is going to be to convert it into wet bulb temp?

[-] NoMoreCocaine@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Someone above mentioned this:

48 degrees Celsius (predicted temp) and 53% humidity (the humidity in Southern Italy today) is a wet bulb temperature of 38.52 degrees Celsius. In the danger zone.

[-] fearout@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

That’s bad. 38 is at the upper limit of survivability in general. Might not be survivable for more than a few hours for elderly/sick/children.

To clarify for anyone reading, human bodies lose the ability cool themselves via evaporation/sweating at around 36 wet bulb degrees C, and body temperature starts to rise to match its surroundings. So it’s like having a constant high fever. 40 WB is survivable for like a couple of hours.

[-] agzo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

This is the temperature in a shadow, right?

[-] books@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I don't see any mention of wetbulb temp so that's kinda good news?

Stay cool my European brothers!

[-] YellowtoOrange@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Isn't the wet bulb temperature measured in real time for it to have a semblance of accuracy?

We'll probably hear of ot on the days of highest hear. If they reach it.

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