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https://github.com/nikitasius/Telegraher
No one gets to decide what i run on my device
No one gets to decide where i run my app
No one gets to decide what must be deleted
It's super weird to me that pirates aren't advocating for the Free Software movement. Being able to control their own devices should be like one of their main goals.
My main goal as a pirate is getting stuff for free, and I would reckon that the majority of pirates are the same.
Free Software gives you the 4 essential freedoms. One of them is the freedom to distribute the program. So anyone could legally give you a copy for free. Sounds like what you want, no?
Even if the authors implement some kind of DRM, any programmer can modify the program to remove that feature and share the modified version with everyone. Technically that is also possible with non-free software, but it's illegal, pretty difficult and requires special skills.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Thanks for the link! I'm trying to install the latest APK in the releases (which is 1y old), but when I try to log in it says "you're using an outdated version, please update" refusing to let me log in :(
Yes, you can only use it if you where using it in the past, sadly the project seems to be abandoned.
No one gets to decide what i run on my device
(Except your device's manufacturer)
No one gets to decide where i run my app
(Except your cloud/SaaSS provider or proprietary app developer)
No one gets to decide what must be deleted
(Except your cloud/SaaSS provider or proprietary app developer)
!I assume this was your point already, I am just agenda posting over here :3!<
What "agenda" are you posting? You're just nay-saying.
Go eat hay elsewhere with that attitude.
I am pointing out that user-controlled computing and user freedom is in a bad shape. That's not nay-saying, since there's a way forward: open hardware and offline-first/p2p software.
We've had a way forward for 40 years and it's called Free Software: https://youtu.be/Ag1AKIl_2GM
I agree! But in at least one case the FSF's understanding/handling of free software is ineffective: firmware. Especially with boot chain security being increasingly implemented in a user freedom hostile way, the focus as presented by the FSF is imo too narrow.
The FSF's stance is just based on our current capabilities. Most people still use proprietary operating systems. We are capable of developing free alternatives of non-free programs, even very complicated ones. But it's not realistic to think that we can currently replace all firmware for any device if we don't know how it works. The amount of products that have the RYF certificate is already very small. Even Librem 5 didn't manage to get it. When it becomes easier, I'm sure they will change the requirements or add more levels.
I'm pretty sure Libreboot contains proprietary firmware now and GNU is planning to develop an actually libre fork. So it's silly for the developer to criticize the FSF for not being radical enough. It makes me think that the person doesn't really believe in what they are saying.
But then the author says they want us to have proprietary firmware packages in our systems. So they want our OSes to be less libre... They even compare not including proprietary firmware to burning books... I stopped reading after that.
I am not saying that we need to replace every non-libre firmware, I am saying that not using firmware updates is hurting free software adoption and doesn't advance user freedom.
But nobody is saying that there shouldn't be a way to update firmware. Firmware just shouldn't a be part of the OS, unless it's free. Adding proprietary components to our systems will only make it harder for us to keep our freedom.
The proprietary firmware is already there, and if you don't update it, your libre system becomes more insecure and less reliable. Distributing updates for those devices is a net gain for software freedom.
You don't know what the proprietary update contains. It can be a security fix, but also a backdoor. People can decide on their own if they want to update, but I see no reason why I must be forced to have proprietary stuff in my system. I want a fully libre distro. I can't switch to one, because I would have to give up on using AMD GPUs, because people like you say that this is fine.
No. You're using a distro which enables you to use the devices you bought. If every distro would follow the misguided path, you would be unable to use your GPU with a libre operating system at all.
Nobody is stopping you to remove your firmware. Right now you're not doing it, because you want actually functional hardware.
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Telegraher, but be aware your account may get banned (I am a premium user tho)
You don't get banned for using a fork.
Telegram API is open, you can use any client you want, even CURL
Unless they ban all the users using a specific client
There are incidents where users using particular fork gets banned
Um using for years, Telegram-FOSS, Nekogram, Forkgram, um both phone and desktop, never get any warning.
If anyone got banned, probably violation of TOS
Also the clients are opensource and available on GitHub
Can you name those forks?
There are several: Signal, Simple-X, Session, and Matrix
Oh how does one use Signal as a Telegram Client?
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Install Signal
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Delete Telegram
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Enjoy Signal
Ah so you didn't actually answer OPs question, I misunderstood your intent.
This was the answer, the best telegram client is the one that says "can't find the app" when you press on it
One simply does not use Telegram - founder is sketchy and it now primarily has alt-right, conspiracy and terrorist uses.
I know some use it for trackers and to bootlick crackers, but it’s still not the best.
it now primarily has alt-right, conspiracy and terrorist uses.
Assuming you meant “users” - I highly doubt that the users you described are even a large minority of Telegram’s user base. They’re highly publicized but that’s it.
Telegram is just a tool. How is saying “don’t use it because terrorists use it” different from saying “don’t use a screwdriver because terrorists use screwdrivers.”
Telegram isn’t a secure messenger like Signal, Matrix, the others you mentioned, or other e2ee options out there. It has an extremely limited secure mode that is useful if you need to have a one-off conversation, but that’s it. But if you don’t need a secure messenger and instead want something to replace Twitter, Discord, other social media, or to serve some other purpose, then it’s fine for that.
founder is sketchy
I’m not familiar with the folks associated with the other apps you mentioned, but Signal’s former CEO and co-founder, Moxie, is a pretty dubious character, too. Signal is anti-FOSS: you can’t use their servers if you fork the client; they won’t federate if you host your own servers; they’re opposed to being on F-Droid or even providing reproducible builds; and they have a history of failing to update their repos in a timely manner, to the point that clients built from source couldn’t even connect to their servers.
That all said, I still use and recommend Signal.
Did you try Molly? A fork of signal focused on security?
There's a bunch of apps on F-Droid you could try
apps on fdroid are all TOS-compliant, otherwise they would be removed real quick by telegram (AFAIK)
Idk which third party apps are compliant which aren't? There is this one feg: https://f-droid.org/packages/it.belloworld.mercurygram/ Unlocks the premium app icons for free. https://f-droid.org/packages/nekox.messenger/ This one surely has a few premium features no? Unlimited accounts feg?
Personally I just use Telegramm-FOSS since years. Not sure what the actual differences to official client are at the moment, but this one is just fine and I'm never annoyed by premium feature ads like it seems to be the case for you.
I highly doubt that F-Droid team removes third party telegramm apps when they are against tos of telegramm. They are actually out there defending our freedom, even and especially when proprietary services do not want us to use Foss third party apps. Google does not want you to use third party apps for their services. F-Droid still out there publishing foss YouTube clients. Give them some credit instead of just assuming they suck up to big companies.
What is a "feg"?
Honestly I thought it was an abbreviation for "for example" and probably used it one gazillion times 😅 now that I google it it seems like "e.g." is what I was going for.
I don't know if it's the "TOS-Breaking" you're looking for, but I've been using Forkgram for a while now and really appreciate the QOL improvements it has, as well as the ability to hide the Premium stuff you aren't using.
Unigram is what you're looking for on Desktop, not 100% sure if they have a Linux build.
Try AyuGram
This is AWESOME! Exactly what I was looking for, thanks!!
does revanced work on telegram? blocking ads is usually the first patch that's put out
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