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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 87 points 2 years ago

I can't believe the GOP called Biden an appeaser on these 3 deaths while they hold up military aid for Ukraine. Unbelievable.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lying is like breathing to them. I'm not surprised at all. And after watching it go on for approximately my whole life, I'm not surprised their voters believe them, either.

[-] Megacomboburrito@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

And the civil wars in Sudan, Yemen and Myanmar

[-] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Throw in Armenia and Azerbaijan.

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 years ago

Not fan of this meme which is often used incorrecty but man, are you spot on!

[-] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I was with it til the end – not very accurate, e.g. there's 10 mentions of Ukraine on the front of https://www.theguardian.com today

Tigray/Ethiopia would be a better fit for the meme

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[-] SapphironZA@lemmings.world 23 points 2 years ago

Could also mention the Assad Genocide next door that has killed more Muslims in 10 years than Israel has in 75.

[-] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 years ago

Russia isnt doing a genocide, they're just Fighting a war over land. You can tell by the fact that Putin speaks about Crimeans as if they're equivalent to Russians, while Israel has made it clear they consider all Palestinians to be animals.

[-] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 68 points 2 years ago

Yeah, them stealing Ukrainian babies and giving them to Russian families definitely doesn't sound like ethnic cleansing.

[-] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 56 points 2 years ago

Also insisting Ukrainians in occupied territory give up their language and culture or face torture and execution.

[-] verstra@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago

This is forced assimilation. A bad crime, but not genocide.

If words are used incorrectly they lose meaning. Which is usually fine, but not for a thing we vowed "never again" for.

[-] randy@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Forcing people to give up their language and culture can be considered cultural genocide. Cultural genocide is not included in the UN Genocide Convention, so the definition of cultural genocide is not universally agreed upon. But the UN Genocide Convention does include "Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group" in its definition of genocide, and Russia is not shy about their relocation and adoption programs, so we can pretty definitively say that Russia is committing genocide in Ukraine.

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[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 25 points 2 years ago

Putin made it clear that he doesn't consider Ukrainian a language

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 years ago

Whatever Putin says should obviously be considered of high information value because it bears so much honesty, integrity and insight. Thank you for reminding us all!

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago

True. That's why he never contradicts himself

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

If Russia plans to genocide Ukraine they would have the war with more force similar to what Israel doing in gaza. In 2 years the death toll in Ukraine vs Russia has been exceeded im 2 months by Israel.

If Russia goal is a genocide then they need to re-evaluate their approach because they are not doing right.

They definitely comitted war crimes but intent of genocide has not been clear compare to what Israel is doing.

You can support Ukraine position but I don't think calling Russia attack as genocidal is accurate.

[-] wandermind@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago

What Russians are doing might or might not be genocide in the strictest sense. But it definitely is cultural genocide, since their goal is to wipe out the Ukrainian identity, language and culture. Russianization is what Russia has always done to other peoples they have subjugated over the centuries.

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

I mean, Russia flubbed so hard the whole world saw it.

Israel clearly has the arsenal everyone thought Russia did.

[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

This is really more telling about yourself.

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