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submitted 1 year ago by Errant@kbin.social to c/gaming@kbin.social

Prices are in euros

Standard Edition: 69.99 PC | 79.99 on Xbox

Premium Edition: 104.99 PC | 114.99 Xbox

Collector's Edition: 299.99 on both platforms.

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[-] Jackretto@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Why are games getting more expansive while the rank and file developers are still paid peanuts and forced to crunch?

[-] Matharl@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Oooof.
Considering it's a Bugthesda game, it's an additional reason to wait to pick this one up.

If you wait, they should have fix most major bugs and drop the price. No sane reason to pick this Day1.

[-] Jojo@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I realllllly hope this game is good. I'd love to have a massive sci fi game right now with the skyrim/fallout feel.

[-] little_hoarse@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

is this coming to game pass? if so, definitely good to test it first before buying

[-] Nexnecis@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

$70 on pc? For a Bethesda game day 1? Yeah, that's a hard 'wait for sale' for me.

[-] Eavolution@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Jesus Christ, I know it's a collectors edition but fuck me €299 for a game is insane, is anyone going to buy that?

[-] tal@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I don't know what the DLC situation is with Starfield, but if you look at some games that do have DLC -- which I'd personally generally care about more than collector's editions -- they can get well above €299.

looks at Steam

The Sims 4 is $1,064.33 for all the current DLC.

IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad is $1,061.63 for all the current DLC.

Paradox has a number of games that aren't quite as large but are still definitely up there. Europa Universalis is $445.13.

[-] Eavolution@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I would love to know how many people have bought $1,000 worth of the sims 4, and how many of those have filed for bankruptcy by now for poor financial decisions.

[-] tal@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

That was my gut reaction too when I first saw it. I'm kind of accustomed to an economic model for video games that works differently, but...it's not intrinsically crazy. If that is someone's hobby, then, hey, if they get a lot of time out of it, it could be worth it. If someone gets, I dunno, say, a jetski, they're gonna be paying more -- probably significantly more -- than $1k, and I suspect that there are a lot of The Sims players who have gotten a lot more hours out of The Sims than a lot of jetski owners have out of their jetskis.

I think that it'd only work for most people for games that have a really substantial level of replayability, that you can get many hours out of. If a fully-loaded copy of The Sims is worth $1k to you, then you're saying that you'd rather have that than 20 $50 games. For me, at least, that's a pretty tough sell, because there are single $50 games that I would rather have a copy of than The Sims 4, much less 20.

On the other hand, the game provides a fairly-unique experience. Not a lot of competition in that space, other than the prior entries in the series. It's not like, oh, the first-person-shooter genre where there are dozens of alternatives at a more-conventional price. If you're dead-set on having a game like that, well, you don't really have any other options.

https://gamerant.com/sims-4-players-majority-young-women/

60% of Sims 4 Players Are Women Aged 18-24

So, basically, the game is targeting a specific demographic that I suspect has been underserved by the video game market. There are lots of genres, say, I dunno, competitive first-person-shooter deathmatch games, that target roughly their male counterparts in age. It may also be that a lot of those women are buying one game. I know one woman who bought a Mac some years back specifically to play The Sims.

[-] Eavolution@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You're definitely right about there being some people who will play it for thousands of hours and probably get $1,000 of enjoyment from it, but where I think the comparison with a jetski falls down is a jetski is a physical thing, it somewhat retains its value, if you do get bored you can sell it later for whatever % of what you paid for it.

You cant really sell games like that anymore, especially not dlc.

[-] radek@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Is it gonna be on Gamepass?

[-] sofa@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I believe so! We’ll probably find out for sure on tomorrow’s presentation.

[-] B-Dubs@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

What was the verdict on this? I missed the showcase :(

[-] FrostBolt@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

My personal verdict is cautious optimism. I think with all the systems that they showed from the ship customization to base building to the lighting engine with the beautiful sunsets, I think it has a potential to be an incredible game. The only thing that gives me pause is Bethesda‘s earned reputation of fairly buggy games at launch. I have no doubt Starfield will be a good game in the long term, but my question is just what’s it gonna be like at launch?

[-] Rakust@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

yeeeeeeesh.

Considering the state that Bethesda games are usually in on launch, i think i'll wait for the price to drop a bit and the fan made fixes to come out.

[-] JoyBoy@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Are games always this expensive in Europe?

[-] Arguti@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Unless they change the current price, we can play it for 10 euros on gamepass day one.

[-] ahornsirup@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

If Skyrim is any indication mod support will be iffy for the Microsoft Store release, though.

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