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[-] Hule@lemmy.world 163 points 7 months ago

I can see Word, PowerPoint and Outlook as stupid.

But Excel is perfect! You can't say You have mastered it.

Even if You have written a book about Excel, it transcends You.

[-] stevehobbes@lemy.lol 231 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Excel is, almost certainly, the single most important and influential piece of software in almost every business.

Excel can do anything, including so many things it shouldn’t.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 106 points 7 months ago

i heard you like a little database in your excel

[-] knorke3@lemm.ee 80 points 7 months ago

we have an excel spreadsheet at my workplace that takes a solid 2 minutes to open and even longer to close and accesses a number of other spreadsheets with read/write access in the background. it's an absolute monster.

(it's essentially a database that keeps track of the calibration dates for our testing equipment)

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 44 points 7 months ago
[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 20 points 7 months ago

Mostly horrified.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There are numerous reports and databases we work with from other platforms, and for nearly all of them, I just end up feeding it to Excel so I can manage it the way I like. So many of those platforms just have absolute dog shit UIs or refuse to present data in a configurable way, or straight up hide certain things for no reason.

Part of my Monday morning routine is actually exporting a CSV for a couple things that can't be connected directly to excel, hitting Get Data, and letting my custom workbooks do their thing. Watching it all update and present itself in exactly the way I want to see it is so god damn satisfying.

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[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 33 points 7 months ago

Excel can do anything, including so many things it shouldn’t.

Including running a 3D graphics engine... with raytracing

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[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

As much as I despise Microsoft and 365, Excel is like the one thing I genuinely think they deserve an incredible amount of credit for. It's one of the most invaluable, well supported tools around.

Shame you can't just buy it.

[-] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz 15 points 7 months ago

You can. It's expensive, but perpetual licences for Office still exist. The Home edition is €150, the professional edition costs €580.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

I mean Excel specifically, not the whole suite. I don't need PowerPoint or a word processor, I'd rather it not be included in the price at all.

Also, they've made OneDrive a requirement for auto-saving on 365, not sure if that's the case for the perpetual licenses, but if so, that's a deal breaker for me. There will never be a Microsoft account associated with my Windows machine, period.

[-] arymandias@feddit.de 31 points 7 months ago

Unpopular opinion time: but give me a csv and a python script any day over excel.

I can’t count the hours I spend cleaning up and debugging xlsx files from customers that were completely unusable due to excels automatic data type feature.

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[-] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

Excel does too many things. A better price of software would do less.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I can't tell if this is ironic or not, because it genuinely feels like Microsoft believes this when you look at the absolute disgrace "New" Outlook is.

For Microsoft, "Modern, sleek, streamlined" are just marketing terms for "We got lazy, made a less useful wed-based product, and you'll have to accept it, at the same price, while we save money on development."

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 11 points 7 months ago

Those are different categories of problems.

Excel really does too much. Biologists literally renamed a genom because Excel kept turning it into a date. If any other database did that, the vendor would hear a friendly but stern "get fucked".

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 92 points 7 months ago

I will always appreciate a true Excel power user. I've seen some black magic shit.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

When you know Excel really well, it's like Legos for data. If you've got the imagination, intuition, and patience, you can make some incredible stuff.

[-] TheEntity@kbin.social 25 points 7 months ago

And between knowing Excel like you've described and knowing only the basics exists an uncanny valley of being able to create some truly revolting abominations. Additionally when all you know is Excel, every problem becomes a spreadsheet, for better or for worse (usually the latter).

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[-] Followupquestion@lemm.ee 17 points 7 months ago

Good Excel users think themselves better than a beginner. Great Excel users think themselves somewhere between Intermediate and Advanced. Excel Masters, and I know one who placed in that Excel data modeling competition, know they’re somewhere in the Intermediate to Advanced range.

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[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 12 points 7 months ago

This is one of my favorites to share. It's a 3D engine with raytracing with no VBA scripting - all of the calculations are done internally with spreadsheet math.

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[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 62 points 7 months ago

Dude, I'm a surgical tech - my job is to stand in an OR and be a surgeon's bitch while we're flaying some fucker open. ...and I still spend what feels like 90% of my day on Outlook -_-

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 30 points 7 months ago

I think you're supposed to Inlook during surgery.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

ERMAHGERD! I fucking love torturing my coworkers with medical dadjokes. I am bookmarking this in my brain, and will steal it when the opportunity presents.

The groans and facepalms will be glorious!

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[-] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 60 points 7 months ago

Is it just me or is office 365 just worse and more impractical than the old office suites?

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[-] anarchyrabbit@lemmy.world 54 points 7 months ago

The Matlab logo looks like a boner under a sheet and now I can't unsee it.

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[-] mvirts@lemmy.world 53 points 7 months ago
[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 28 points 7 months ago

Self-flagilation is a little far for me.

[-] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

Once your over the hump, it's a pleasure to use relative to word. Especially if your document gets large or has lots of maths in it.

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[-] DrakeRichards@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

Please forget LaTeX. Please let us adopt a more modern alternative that isn’t absolutely painful to use.

[-] mvirts@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

And yet MATLAB is still on the list 😹

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[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 months ago

i love compiler errors in my documentation

[-] HootinNHollerin@slrpnk.net 44 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Being a SOLIDWORKS customer is exactly the same as being a rat in a cage. They are the most aggressively evil I’ve ever experienced. Adobe etc not even close

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[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Garbage software is one of the primary reasons I left my last job despite high pay. It just got too friggin annoying to use. They'd roll out a 'hotfix' to fix something they had broken 3 months earlier and they'd break 2 new things which previously had been working fine for years. The support was so bad I just bought a magic eight ball for our office and we'd ask it our support questions.

Yardi, I'm looking at you.

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[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 41 points 7 months ago

The Ribbon interface used on office products isn't there because it's good UX. It exists because there's a software patent on it.

If office didn't use a patented UI, someone could make office software that replicated the UI of MS Office which would allow companies to switch to other products without having to retrain staff.

Microsoft was enshittifying their software long before anyone else.

[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

I did an internship where I was creating a prototype UI for a Windows application, and used the ribbon API to build it. I thought it was a well thought out design, and was definitely an improvement over nested menus. A problem I've seen come up a lot though is shitty implementations where the pattern wasn't followed correctly making it really hard to find things because the developers put items in dumb places.

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[-] pelya@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

I can't use the new MS Office with butchered menu. LibreOffice is more similar to the classic MS Office than MS Office itself.

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[-] rockyracoon@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

MATLAB being jacked but still a little off feels right to me lol.

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[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

TBF if you're professionally using MATLAB you're like, sending people to space or modeling atmospheres. Which I guess some of you might do haha.

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[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 22 points 7 months ago

There's a middleground. Power Automate. The website crashes Firefox.

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[-] kamen@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

You're probably at the wrong job then.

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[-] noctisatrae@beehaw.org 20 points 7 months ago

Solidworks, Matlab is not exactly what you call CHAD open-source tech as opposed to Python where you can get shit done with it.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 14 points 7 months ago

That bottom row of wojaks are ableist as hell, I really wish people would stop using them.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Just enable Accessibility settings under Options.

[-] Buttermilk@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago

4chan is a perpetual blight on memetic culture

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[-] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 13 points 7 months ago

Me: oracle, oracle and more oracle

Damnit, who put a maze with no exits in this cage?

[-] Wermhatswormhat@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

Maybe you need a career shift bud. As a designer you could absolutely use those softwares!

[-] Fixbeat@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

Business apps at work? Shocking!

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