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Taylor Swift is living every woman’s AI porn nightmare — Deepfake nudes of the pop star are appearing all over social media. We all saw this coming.::Deepfake nudes of the pop star are appearing all over social media. We all saw this coming.

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[-] books@lemmy.world 91 points 9 months ago

I feel like I live on the Internet and I never see this shit. Either it doesn't exist or I exist on a completely different plane of the net.

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 9 months ago

On the Internet, censorship happens not by having too little information, but too much information in which it is difficult to find what you want.

We all have only so much time to spend on the Internet and so necessarily get a filtered experience of everything that happens on the Internet.

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[-] Stanwich@lemmy.world 74 points 9 months ago

WHAT?? DISGUSTING! WHERE WOULD THESE JERKS PUT THIS ? WHAT SPECIFIC WEBSITE DO I NEED TO BOYCOTT?

[-] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 34 points 9 months ago

Time and place. Don't be a creep.

Yes I get the reference.

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[-] BeefPiano@lemmy.world 70 points 9 months ago

I wonder if this winds up with revenge porn no longer being a thing? Like, if someone leaks nudes of me I can just say it’s a deepfake?

Probably a lot of pain for women from mouth breathers before we get there from here .

[-] SnotFlickerman 54 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I mean, not much happened to protect women after The Fappening, and that happened to boatloads of famous women with lots of money, too.

Arguably, not any billionaires, so we'll see I guess.

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Why would it make revenge porn less of a thing? Why are so many people here convinced that as long people say it's "fake" it's not going to negatively affect them?

The mouth breathers will never go away. They might even use the excuse the other way around, that because someone could say just about everything is fake, then it might be real and the victim might be lying. Remember that blurry pictures of bigfoot were enough to fool a lot of people.

Hell, even others believe it is fake, wouldn't it still be humilliating?

[-] Aethr@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I think you're underestimating the potential effects of an entire society starting to distrust pictures/video. Yeah a blurry Bigfoot fooled an entire generation, but nowadays most people you talk to will say it's doctored. Scale that up to a point where literally anyone can make completely realistic pics/vids of anything in their imagination, and have it be indistinguishable from real life? I think there's a pretty good chance that "nope, that's a fake picture of me" will be a believable, no question response to just about anything. It's a problem

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[-] JoBo@feddit.uk 8 points 9 months ago

Why do you think "there" is meaningfully different from "here"?

[-] Cheskaz@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Australia's federal legislation making non-consensual sharing of intimate images an offense includes doctored or generated images because that's still extremely harmful to the victim and their reputation.

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[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 57 points 9 months ago

God what a garbage article:

On X—which used to be called Twitter before it was bought by billionaire edgelord Elon Musk

I mean, really? The guy makes my skin crawl, but what a hypocritically edgy comment to put into an article.

And then zero comment from Taylor Swift in it at all. She is basically just speaking for her. Not only that, but she anoints herself spokesperson for all women...while also pretty conspicuously ignoring that men can be victims of this too.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending non consensual ai porn in the least, and I assume the author and I are mostly in agreement about the need for something to be done about it.

But it's trashy politically charged and biased articles like this that make people take sides on things like this. Imo, the author is contributing to the problems of society she probably wants to fix.

[-] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

hypocritically edgy comment to put into an article.

Its vice, their whole brand is edgy. Calling Elon an edgelord is very on brand for them.

pretty conspicuously ignoring that men can be victims of this too.

Sure, but women are disproportionately affected by this. You're making the "all lives matter" argument of AI porn

make people take sides on things like this

People should be taking sides on this.

Just seems like you wanna get mad for no reason? I read the article, and it doesn't come across nearly as bad as you would lead anyone to believe. This article is about deepfake pornography as a whole, and how is can (and more importantly HAS) affected women, including minors. Sure it would have been nice to have a comment from Taylor, but i really don't think it was necessary.

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[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

On the contrary, I find it more ridiculous when news media pretends like nothing is wrong over at Twitter HQ. I wish more journalists would call Musk out like this every time they're forced to mention Twitter.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

Can you really see nothing other than "pretending nothing is wrong" and "calling musk an edge lord?"

I see the media calling out the faults regularly regularly without needing to act like ..well, an edge lord.

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[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 56 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Fake celebrity porn has existed since before photography, in the form of drawings and impersonators. At this point, if you're even somewhat young and good-looking (and sometimes even if you're not), the fake porn should be expected as part of the price you pay for fame. It isn't as though the sort of person who gets off on this cares whether the pictures are real or not—they just need them to be close enough that they can fool themselves.

Is it right? No, but it's the way the world is, because humans suck.

[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 37 points 9 months ago

Honestly, the way I look at it is that the real offense is publishing.

While still creepy, it would be hard to condemn someone for making fakes for personal consumption. Making an AI fake is the high-tech equivalent of gluing a cutout of your crush's face onto a playboy centerfold. It's hard to want to prohibit people from pretending.

But posting those fakes online is the high-tech, scaled-up version of xeroxing the playboy centerfold with your crush's face on it, and taping up copies all over town for everyone to see.

Obviously, there's a clear line people should not cross, but it's clear that without laws to deter it, AI fakes are just going to circulate freely.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

AI fake is the high-tech equivalent of gluing a cutout of your crush’s face onto a playboy centerfold.

At first I read that as "cousin's face" and I was like "bru, that's oddly specific." Lol

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[-] jwing@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago
[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 26 points 9 months ago

Every thread man. Feels like reddit with tired references. You're not even the first in this thread to reference it.

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[-] Zip2@feddit.uk 47 points 9 months ago

I’ll wait for Taylor’s version.

[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

People have been doing these for years even before AGI.

Now, it's just faster.

Edit: Sorry, I suppose I should mean LLM AI

[-] expr@programming.dev 9 points 9 months ago

AGI continues to exist purely in the realm of science fiction.

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[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 37 points 9 months ago

I feel like this is amazing. Everyone can get any porn they want and no one gets hurt? And if nudes of anyone are ever "leaked" you could just say they're AI generated. It's like a win win win.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

Are you stupid? This absolutely hurts those that are being victimized by this.

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago
[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Someone paints or uses Photoshop to make a fake but hyper realistic nude of someone. (Kinda weird but not unheard of.)

  • "silence"

AI makes the same thing.

  • "Omg!!! Rabble rabble rabble! Mindless anger!! How could you!"
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[-] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Fucking yikes, freak

[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Spreading it is a shitty thing to do. If you want to make it in your own privacy that's your business, but don't spread it around. It's not like it's hard to make.

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[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago

Went to Bing and found "Taylor swift ai pictures" as a top search. LOTS of images of her being railed by Sesame Street characters

[-] SnotFlickerman 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Im gonna be real...

When I stumbled upon (didn't go looking to be clear) her and Oscar the Grouch on a pile of trash... It sent me.

I know the whole situation is gross but I couldn't stop laughing due to the sheer absurdity. Like... What???

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[-] ExLisper@linux.community 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah, I'm sure next time she's looking for a job her potential employer will google her name and when he find this fake porn will not hire her. She will forever be haunted by this and her career and personal life will suffer. You know, every woman's nightmare.

[-] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 13 points 9 months ago

You clearly don’t get it, and might be beyond understanding any explanation.

[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think @ExLisper is saying Taylor swift is not living other women's porn nightmare - other women need to worry about career impacts and the effect on their capability to earn money and support their families, which taylor, being the industry powerhouse and billionaire she is, need not be really concerned by.

The same way every other issue affects different classes of society differently.

[-] ExLisper@linux.community 11 points 9 months ago

Exactly. She also doesn't have to worry that the guy she's dating saw it and will dump her or that her co-workers saw it and are spreading rumours at work. She has to worry about her multimillion dollar brand which is something other women don't really have issues with. It's terrible for her but to claim that she somehow represents other woman in this is ridiculous.

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[-] DarkMessiah@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

And this is why I don’t want to be famous. Being famous exposes your name to the crazies of the world, and leaves you blissfully unaware until the crazies snap.

[-] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 months ago

"... privacy is something you can sell, but you can’t buy it back." -Bob Dylan

[-] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 months ago

At least now, if pictures are real, you can say it’s AI generated.

Still, to be honest, I’ve never understood how some people can let one night stands film them naked.

If it’s a longtime girlfriend or boyfriend and they betray you, it’s different, but people aren’t acting in a clever way when it comes to sex.

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[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago

This shit is gross in general but she absolutely markets herself as a sex icon. I guarantee you she's not that upset about more free publicity.

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[-] b3an@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Well, targeting someone famous and going overboard with it likely results in legal responses. Perhaps this gets deepfakes then attention they need to be regulated or legally punishable. Especially when targeting underage children.

[-] beirut_bootleg@programming.dev 13 points 9 months ago

What should I do to avoid these nudes?

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago

According to the article it's impossible, you will probably see these on a billboard on your way into work. According to real life if you spend several hours looking for them you might find them on some 4chan sub somewhere. If you don't know to avoid corners of the internet like that already, there isn't any hope.

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[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Ya yuge nightmare being a billionaire must be. Poor rich person

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[-] Supermariofan67@programming.dev 9 points 9 months ago

I'm not really sure what to think of this. On one hand, the way I see it, AI deep fakes are essentially a form of defamation, and can harm people by in a way being a false rumour about their sexual life. However, public figures are subject to a much higher standard for defamation, and for a very good reason, else there would be a strong chilling effect on satire, parody, and criticism.

In general I think that deepfakes are only wrong (defamatory) if a reasonable person couldn't easily distinguish them from reality, so obvious fake stuff doesn't count. But for those that are, where is the line drawn for public figures? It is unfortunate that many people can't choose whether to become a public figure, but it is essential to a functional society that freedom of the press and free expression be lenient when it comes to satirical, critical, creative, and even indecent works related to them. But this is of course not absolute.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

She does have the money to sue every poster to kingdom come.

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