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submitted 2 years ago by DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I am currently using Linux Mint (after a long stint of using MX Linux) after learning it handles Nvidia graphics cards flawlessly, which I am grateful for. Whatever grief I have given Ubuntu in the past, I take it back because when they make something work, it is solid.

Anyways, like most distros these days, Flatpaks show up alongside native packages in the package manager / app store. I used to have a bias towards getting the natively packed version, but these days, I am choosing Flatpaks, precisely because I know they will be the latest version.

This includes Blender, Cura, Prusaslicer, and just now QBittorrent. I know this is probably dumb, but I choose the version based on which has the nicer icon.

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[-] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

i avoided flatpacks before.
but now that i tried out silverblue and had to rely heavily on them,
i have to admit that flatpacks are not nearly as bad as i thought.

the only issues i encountered are with steam (might not start propperly on first launch)
and with ides(terminal starts inside the sandbox)

other than that it works great.

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[-] Lamy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 2 years ago
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[-] vtez44@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

I was using Flatpak and Toolbx exclusively until I discovered Nix. It's much better than using those two.

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[-] Pekka@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago

Flatpak and Snap definitely make installation more simple. The packages come with their own dependencies so you have way less issues with conflicting dependencies. I like them when they are officially supported by the distribution or developer, but I prefer the official installations over supporting a random person making a package (not sure if this is a thing with Flatpak, but with Snaps that was definitely a thing).

Some software really benefits from not begin inside flatpak though, I had to switch back to the deb version of Visual Studio Code as the integrated console didn't have access to some software outside the package and was also logging weird errors.

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[-] gaybear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'd rather have 5GB of binaries than deal with unmet dependencies one more time (despite many people claims, it is still easy to fall into), my only criticism for flatpak though, is that any kind of modification for a file requires you to navigate through at least ten directories.

[-] LaggyKar@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

Or subtle breakage, because the dependencies from the distro doesn't quite match what the application needs

[-] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

Directories are probably the most offensive thing about all package management. Developers are happy to throw their files in .hidden directories anywhere they please. No real standards for that.

I don't know what principles people are adhering to when it comes to the ideal computing environment, but having to deal with the minutia of installation problems to meet some kind of criteria is just not interesting to me either.

[-] Crow@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I didn’t like them before I used flatseal. Now I love them.

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[-] nobloat@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Flatpaks are okay but they take too much space

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[-] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I prefered AppImages, but now that I'm on Nix, I've gone back to native. Native packages work well in the NixOS ecosystem.

[-] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

For sure certain package managers are better than others, and NIX seems to be in a class of its own.

I don't know how much time I am willing to invest in NIX, or Guix for that scheme power, but I can do myself a favor experiment with a few VMs.

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[-] gabriele97@lemmy.g97.top 3 points 2 years ago

I try to always use flatpak because I can install/remove software is a simpler way without leaving dependencies installed on my system forever.

Obviously for critical stuff I use the native version

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[-] Kierunkowy74@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Definitely not me. I am on LiveUSB right now which makes my disk volume limited. And native packaging satisfies my needs (even when packages are old)

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[-] dontblink@feddit.it 3 points 2 years ago

In place of snap OF COURSE.

I can state without any doubt that i had problems with 80% of the programs coming from snap..

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[-] sgtnasty@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

For me the perfect example is GNOME Builder (I use KDE Plasma) but this package has it all. No, you dont need to download any dependencies, the sandbox handles it all!

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