I will be stepping down in ~7-14 days any suggestions on how to find someone that could take care of this community better than me? Thank you.
Lol man just gave his 2 weeks notice for modding the antiwork community
This fucking loser also lies to people that he's the reason OpenAI exists LMFAO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWr-DA5Wjfw ("Elon Musk on Sam Altman and ChatGPT: I am the reason OpenAI exists")
He was and still is the largest contributor of funds when OpenAI was founded, he is also one of the founders.
This is not to say that OpenAI wouldn't exist without him but he did contribute massively to its economy.
Oh, I'm not discrediting him. I'm just pointing out that he gives all the credit to himself like he always does with everything he touches.
That's what rich people do, capital is all the provide. Marx nailed this shit down like two centuries ago.
Your attitude, though. Slather on that hate nice and thick. Was it good for you? Make you feel better now that you have someone to hang?
Elon is a bitch.
Hate is dull.
Tell that to apartheid emerald boy and his army of alt right and fascist fanboys.
In June 2009, Eberhard brought a lawsuit against Elon Musk for libel, slander, and breach of contract, alleging that Musk pushed him out of the company, publicly disparaged him, and compromised Tesla's financial health.[16] In August 2009, Eberhard dropped the lawsuit for undisclosed reasons
The undisposed reasons were money. Lots of money.
Incase anyone wanted to know the timeline:
Tesla was incorporated in July 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning as Tesla Motors. The company's name is a tribute to inventor and electrical engineer . In February 2004, via a $6.5 million investment, Elon Musk became the company's largest shareholder. He became CEO in 2008.
There’s some irony that a company named after an overlooked inventor was founded by two overlooked inventors…
$6.5 million
For $6.5 million he became CEO of what became an $800 billion dollar company? That's not bad.
I hate elon as well but I have to give it to him, not everyone with money can scale a company like he did. People say elon's dad was rich and he bought all the companies, this might be true but there are many people with rich dad's but not everyone can take a company to a level where Tesla, spacex and others are.
You're saying that like he scaled it with profits. This is all taxpayer money and grifting.
Tesla exploded during the start of EVs, and has only devalued since. SpaceX is run by crazy engineers, not Musk, and is all paid for by taxpayers and carbon offsets.
Twitter is an example of a company where Musk is left at the helm, alone.
This is all true:
Not everyone with money could build two huge successful companies (and let's face it, while he didn't found Tesla, the company wouldn't be this successful without him).
Someone without money (as in, at least multiple millions) could never do this, no matter how talented.
Elon Musk has repeatedly beaten the odds when everyone was telling him that it's impossible or stupid. He did this at least 3 times. But this breaks a man. He starts to think that every idea of his is a good one, especially when everyone else is telling him it's stupid. A good example is George Lucas, prequels ~~and sequels~~ were the way they were because he didn't have to listen to anyone, so he didn't.
FYI: George Lucas wasn't involved with the sequels. He sold the rights to Star Wars to Disney in 2012.
He must have a brilliant team
Elon maybe have done too many drugs because his discourse is completely different to a decade ago.
He may always have been an asshole but he had some sense of proportion, in his public pronouncements at least.
He either dropped the mask, or he has fucked himself up somehow. Possibly a bit of both.
Nah, it's the result of "yes man" culture.
He thought he was always right, because he thinks he's smart.
So if an employee disagreed with him, it's because they weren't smart. So he got rid of them and promoted people who would agree with them.
After a couple years that means everyone around him would just agree and tell Elon he was a genius.
With no constructive criticism, he'd start making wilder plans, and everyone would still call him a genius. And it just spirals.
He went full Kanye, never go full Kanye.
There are a lot of reasons to dislike Musk, this is not one of them.
When Elon came on board Tesla their business plan was to buy existing super cars and an existing electric drive train and then convert the super cars.
This was all going to be done by hand in a workshop. They would do dozens of cars a year.
Without Elon that's what they would be doing, he was behind the transition to building their own vehicles on their production lines and volumes comparable to normal manufacturers.
That's why he won his lawsuit to be listed as a founder.
The reason to dislike him in this instance is that he takes ALL the credit for the company’s success, never mentioning these two or Tesla’s beginnings
By the sounds of it all they brought to it was the name and maybe some technical knowhow. Because everything else about their business seems to have been abandoned. The only way to get further off from "we'll make electric conversions with preexisting parts" is to abandon electric cars as a whole.
He may not deserve all of the credit, but it sounds like he deserves something north of 90% of it.
On top of that, they're both very rich now because of Tesla's success. There's really no reason to pity these guys.
No, that's not how it went down. Watch this interview with them: https://youtu.be/eblPwXFb7TE
They had the full plan laid out (start with expensive sports cars, then step by step move into mass market) and got Musk involved using it as a proposal.
Muskrat just takes the credit and drums up some hype. I wonder what his newest unfeasible project will be? I bet it's something safe and reliable!
Musk has consistently proven himself to be a driving force behind the sustained success of every company under his leadership. Disparaging attitudes towards Elon seem to follow popular opinion rather than fact. While there's plenty of justifiable criticism, the points frequently echoed here don't contribute meaningfully to constructive discourse.
Edit: The prevalence of downvotes simply underscores my argument. How does this platform distinguish itself from Reddit, when it harbors a similar degree of negativity and concerted downvoting targeted at individuals participating in earnest conversation?
Salty Elon anti-simps are everywhere and will always downvote things. That isn't really this platform's fault.
Big differences between reddit and here are:
- The points don't matter (and the rules are made up)
- You don't get banned from communities for wrongthink
- Fuck u/spez
Those are all great reasons for using Lemmy instead. Oh, plus the relative privacy.
Pssst. People here don’t like white supremacist Nazi promoters.
Honestly though who gives a shit about Musk though? Do you personally admire him? He’s a rich guy that is good at managing, if that’s something to admire then I understand your comment, otherwise it’s just ball riding
I just find the amount of hate a bit ridiculous.
Okay that’s fair enough, do you actually admire him? That’s what I’m curious about
I don't admire his tweets or latest shenanigans, but I do admire his work in engineering and AI. In those specific fields, he is quite the visionary, knowing how to position the right people in the right places with a clear future goal in mind. More often than not, his foresight proves accurate. Specific examples of the engineering decisions and designs manifested in SpaceX or Tesla include innovations such as the Octovalve, Gigacasting, FSD computer, the reusability of Falcon 9 with landings, Merlin and Raptor rocket engines, and the general software architecture in Tesla cars. The list goes on for technology enthusiasts like me.
You don't have to appreciate everything about him — I certainly don't — but as someone who loves technology, I can't help but recognize how his vision has propelled America further into the future.
Part of me wishes he had delved into nuclear science to solve fusion instead of purchasing Twitter. Perhaps, though, he's past his prime.
So basically more a fan of his work, makes sense
Thanks for taking the time to understand my side of the argument.
You're mistaking deserved scorn and ridicule for hate, a common tactic amongst people trying to defend ridiculous people.
good at managing
About that, have you seen twitter lately?
It seems like his best management decisions have been to not touch anything.
Me and all my homies hate elon....
Truly brave of you
Your bar for being brave is too low.
..it wasn't what he said, it was the implication.
Antiwork is happy for 2 hardworking people?
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