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[-] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I will be stepping down in ~7-14 days any suggestions on how to find someone that could take care of this community better than me? Thank you.

[-] antony@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Lol man just gave his 2 weeks notice for modding the antiwork community

[-] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

This fucking loser also lies to people that he's the reason OpenAI exists LMFAO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWr-DA5Wjfw ("Elon Musk on Sam Altman and ChatGPT: I am the reason OpenAI exists")

[-] pumpsnabben@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

He was and still is the largest contributor of funds when OpenAI was founded, he is also one of the founders.

This is not to say that OpenAI wouldn't exist without him but he did contribute massively to its economy.

[-] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Oh, I'm not discrediting him. I'm just pointing out that he gives all the credit to himself like he always does with everything he touches.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That's what rich people do, capital is all the provide. Marx nailed this shit down like two centuries ago.

[-] bastion@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Your attitude, though. Slather on that hate nice and thick. Was it good for you? Make you feel better now that you have someone to hang?

[-] mtpunkty@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago
[-] bastion@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Tell that to apartheid emerald boy and his army of alt right and fascist fanboys.

[-] Lemmylaugh@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

In June 2009, Eberhard brought a lawsuit against Elon Musk for libel, slander, and breach of contract, alleging that Musk pushed him out of the company, publicly disparaged him, and compromised Tesla's financial health.[16] In August 2009, Eberhard dropped the lawsuit for undisclosed reasons

[-] a_spooky_specter@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

The undisposed reasons were money. Lots of money.

[-] thejml@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Incase anyone wanted to know the timeline:

Tesla was incorporated in July 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning as Tesla Motors. The company's name is a tribute to inventor and electrical engineer . In February 2004, via a $6.5 million investment, Elon Musk became the company's largest shareholder. He became CEO in 2008.

[-] jagged@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

There’s some irony that a company named after an overlooked inventor was founded by two overlooked inventors…

[-] dan1101@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

$6.5 million

For $6.5 million he became CEO of what became an $800 billion dollar company? That's not bad.

[-] Yoz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I hate elon as well but I have to give it to him, not everyone with money can scale a company like he did. People say elon's dad was rich and he bought all the companies, this might be true but there are many people with rich dad's but not everyone can take a company to a level where Tesla, spacex and others are.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You're saying that like he scaled it with profits. This is all taxpayer money and grifting.

Tesla exploded during the start of EVs, and has only devalued since. SpaceX is run by crazy engineers, not Musk, and is all paid for by taxpayers and carbon offsets.

Twitter is an example of a company where Musk is left at the helm, alone.

[-] Noughmad@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is all true:

Not everyone with money could build two huge successful companies (and let's face it, while he didn't found Tesla, the company wouldn't be this successful without him).

Someone without money (as in, at least multiple millions) could never do this, no matter how talented.

Elon Musk has repeatedly beaten the odds when everyone was telling him that it's impossible or stupid. He did this at least 3 times. But this breaks a man. He starts to think that every idea of his is a good one, especially when everyone else is telling him it's stupid. A good example is George Lucas, prequels ~~and sequels~~ were the way they were because he didn't have to listen to anyone, so he didn't.

[-] RichardButt89@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

FYI: George Lucas wasn't involved with the sequels. He sold the rights to Star Wars to Disney in 2012.

[-] toasteranimation@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

He must have a brilliant team

[-] whereisk@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Elon maybe have done too many drugs because his discourse is completely different to a decade ago.

He may always have been an asshole but he had some sense of proportion, in his public pronouncements at least.

He either dropped the mask, or he has fucked himself up somehow. Possibly a bit of both.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Nah, it's the result of "yes man" culture.

He thought he was always right, because he thinks he's smart.

So if an employee disagreed with him, it's because they weren't smart. So he got rid of them and promoted people who would agree with them.

After a couple years that means everyone around him would just agree and tell Elon he was a genius.

With no constructive criticism, he'd start making wilder plans, and everyone would still call him a genius. And it just spirals.

He went full Kanye, never go full Kanye.

[-] DFTBA_FTW@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

There are a lot of reasons to dislike Musk, this is not one of them.

When Elon came on board Tesla their business plan was to buy existing super cars and an existing electric drive train and then convert the super cars.

This was all going to be done by hand in a workshop. They would do dozens of cars a year.

Without Elon that's what they would be doing, he was behind the transition to building their own vehicles on their production lines and volumes comparable to normal manufacturers.

That's why he won his lawsuit to be listed as a founder.

[-] toasteranimation@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

The reason to dislike him in this instance is that he takes ALL the credit for the company’s success, never mentioning these two or Tesla’s beginnings

[-] awsamation@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

By the sounds of it all they brought to it was the name and maybe some technical knowhow. Because everything else about their business seems to have been abandoned. The only way to get further off from "we'll make electric conversions with preexisting parts" is to abandon electric cars as a whole.

He may not deserve all of the credit, but it sounds like he deserves something north of 90% of it.

[-] Xeelee@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

On top of that, they're both very rich now because of Tesla's success. There's really no reason to pity these guys.

[-] foobaz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

No, that's not how it went down. Watch this interview with them: https://youtu.be/eblPwXFb7TE

They had the full plan laid out (start with expensive sports cars, then step by step move into mass market) and got Musk involved using it as a proposal.

[-] Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Muskrat just takes the credit and drums up some hype. I wonder what his newest unfeasible project will be? I bet it's something safe and reliable!

[-] elskertesla@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Musk has consistently proven himself to be a driving force behind the sustained success of every company under his leadership. Disparaging attitudes towards Elon seem to follow popular opinion rather than fact. While there's plenty of justifiable criticism, the points frequently echoed here don't contribute meaningfully to constructive discourse.

Edit: The prevalence of downvotes simply underscores my argument. How does this platform distinguish itself from Reddit, when it harbors a similar degree of negativity and concerted downvoting targeted at individuals participating in earnest conversation?

[-] Feweroptions@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Salty Elon anti-simps are everywhere and will always downvote things. That isn't really this platform's fault.

Big differences between reddit and here are:

  • The points don't matter (and the rules are made up)
  • You don't get banned from communities for wrongthink
  • Fuck u/spez

Those are all great reasons for using Lemmy instead. Oh, plus the relative privacy.

[-] mingistech@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Pssst. People here don’t like white supremacist Nazi promoters.

[-] mikeboltonshair@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Honestly though who gives a shit about Musk though? Do you personally admire him? He’s a rich guy that is good at managing, if that’s something to admire then I understand your comment, otherwise it’s just ball riding

[-] elskertesla@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I just find the amount of hate a bit ridiculous.

[-] mikeboltonshair@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Okay that’s fair enough, do you actually admire him? That’s what I’m curious about

[-] elskertesla@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I don't admire his tweets or latest shenanigans, but I do admire his work in engineering and AI. In those specific fields, he is quite the visionary, knowing how to position the right people in the right places with a clear future goal in mind. More often than not, his foresight proves accurate. Specific examples of the engineering decisions and designs manifested in SpaceX or Tesla include innovations such as the Octovalve, Gigacasting, FSD computer, the reusability of Falcon 9 with landings, Merlin and Raptor rocket engines, and the general software architecture in Tesla cars. The list goes on for technology enthusiasts like me.

You don't have to appreciate everything about him — I certainly don't — but as someone who loves technology, I can't help but recognize how his vision has propelled America further into the future.

Part of me wishes he had delved into nuclear science to solve fusion instead of purchasing Twitter. Perhaps, though, he's past his prime.

[-] mikeboltonshair@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

So basically more a fan of his work, makes sense

[-] elskertesla@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks for taking the time to understand my side of the argument.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You're mistaking deserved scorn and ridicule for hate, a common tactic amongst people trying to defend ridiculous people.

[-] Hawke@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

good at managing

About that, have you seen twitter lately?

It seems like his best management decisions have been to not touch anything.

[-] Kofu@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Me and all my homies hate elon....

[-] TheImplication@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[-] Kofu@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Your bar for being brave is too low.

[-] bastion@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

..it wasn't what he said, it was the implication.

[-] Compactor9679@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

Antiwork is happy for 2 hardworking people?

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