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submitted 11 months ago by breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca to c/news@lemmy.world

The powerful United Auto Workers (UAW) formally endorsed Joe Biden’s re-election campaign on Wednesday at the union’s national community action program conference in Washington DC.

Both the US president and rival Donald Trump have courted the union and supported its successful strike action against the US’s big three automakers last year. Biden became the first president to walk a picket line in support of the union.

“Joe Biden bet on the American worker while Donald Trump blamed the American worker,” UAW president, Shawn Fain told the conference. “If our endorsement must be earned, Joe Biden has earned it.

“Donald Trump is a scab. Donald Trump is a billionaire and that’s who he represents,” Fain said. “This election is about who will stand up with us and who will stand in our way.”

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[-] ApostleO@startrek.website 82 points 11 months ago

"Donald Trump is a scab."

Trump would be a scab, but he's never worked a day in his life.

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 75 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don’t get how this thing is even contested. Yeah okay, Brandon’s 165 years old, genocide this and bullshit that, but trump is worse in every conceivable way, save for what - 4(?) years of age, for which Biden has worn a lot less than Trump? What in the ever-loving-fuck is going on? Trump is the most damaging traitor in US history, ffs. He is a committed fascist - again, I ask: wtf??? “But he won’t get us into any wars!” - yeah, because he cannot even understand our strategic interests and the imperative need to maintain the Western order that has allowed us and our allies to flourish. “GeNoCiDe!!!”. Okay, numbnuts, what in the goddamn fuck do you expect a fucking REPUBLICAN to do? Other than sell us out to russia, that is.

Fuck!

[-] jak@sopuli.xyz 10 points 11 months ago

our strategic interests and the imperative need to maintain the Western order that has allowed us and our allies to flourish

That’s where you lost me. A lot of awful things have allowed us to flourish, but the ends don’t justify the means.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Getting older after a lifetime of aggressive left activism. I'm starting to accept we're falling into the end game for this epoch and I like the American (EU/NATO/West backed) iron fist best.

I prefer our imperialist iron fist over Putin or Xi's. Fuck it, I said it. I say it IRL to all my 30 to 50 yr old lifetime blue bubble living lefty friends from both coasts and damn near anywhere in this country, all the time, and we all agree at this point. I'd rather our shitty capitalist colonial defense contract oil pipeline bullshit than the organ harvesting of Muslims (while purporting to be an ally to MENA). Better than that Nazi Russian genocidal fuck's world order. Don't forget all the other psychopaths across Eurasia with nukes.

The world is hard and scary and shitty. We just had a peaceful unprecedented bubble for a few decades. And now we're about to run out of natural resources. People need to grow the fuck up or they're in denial.

Fuck it. USA USA USA

[-] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Honestly this has become my attitude as well. I hate it, but it seems like everyone else is even worse.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Seriously. Have to talk to adults like my first grader.. "I understand you don't like it. I know what that feels like. I don't like it either. But that's the world little one"

[-] jak@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The US removed organs from people held in immigration detention centers.

I would urge you to look at what your own country is doing in comparison to the worst of what you hear about other countries.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Fox news... Yeah. You so far left, I'm a conservative....

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Come on, faux news, three years ago, allegations from one person, for things they didn’t witness, against one doctor. The article also includes denials and announces an investigation- so where did the investigation go? Were there any other journalistic updates? Was this “whistleblower” status real?

And the article finishes with the flourish that this is like eugenics legislation and mass sterilization? How far from left field did they pull that one.

Most definitely I hope there was a thorough investigation, and journalists keeping them on their toes, and if this one doctor did things against informed consent of his patience, by all means, justice should prevail, but that’s do reason to jump off the cliff

[-] jak@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

The Guardian reported in 22 on what came out of the investigation.

I would love for this to be false and one nutso nurse, please send me something credible suggesting it’s wrong, if you can. It’s fucking sickening to imagine it’s true, so I’m very happy to change my mind if there’s evidence supporting it.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the follow up, it does look like something horrible happened. This follow up is much more informative than the three year old allegations, and skips the hyperbole of comparing it to eugenics. I would love to be able to call it false but it looks like at least better reporting, plus the investigation did go somewhere, even if it only ended the contract

[-] extant@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Some people base their decisions on analytical thoughts and others based on emotion. Trump is fantastic at making speeches that make people feel good and scratch some need they're desperate for even if it makes no sense when you read it back.

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I don’t know the specifics of the UAW but it is possible that a large amount of their member base are actually Trump supporters.

It seems weird but there are conservative union members.

So the UAW is in an awkward position of having to go through the motions of a considered deliberation for who to endorse so as to not get those members offside.

At the end of the day a union represents its members interests, even if those interests are self sabotaging, just like a democracy.

[-] qooqie@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

I like this Shawn fain guy and wouldn’t mind him doing more in the more formal politics scene

[-] dmtalon@infosec.pub 16 points 11 months ago

I think for union duties him being so hardline works. I think in a more formal political scene that would be more problematic regardless of which "side" he was on.

We need people that can and are willing to work together and solve problems. Not "my way or the highway" mentality

Of course, this is my opinion.

[-] rdyoung@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The left could use more of the my way or the highway. We (our representatives) have let the right pull us towards their insanity in the name of "working together". Hopefully we get enough control back this election that we can stop playing footsie with them and tell then to sit down, shut up and let the adults take care of things.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

His 'my way or the highway' is for making up for past shitty compromises to bring things up to where the workers should be. There are still compromises, just not always in favor of the companies.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

We need people that can and are willing to work together and solve problems. Not "my way or the highway" mentality

"Now shut up and vote how we order you to" - current Democrats.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

If he wasn't needed where he is, I'd vote for him for president tomorrow.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

I mean, understandable. Biden met with and encouraged, whereas drumpf ignored them and went to his donors instead.

[-] xarexyouxmadx@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Unions in the US continue to be controlled opposition

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Fuck off. This dude is the real deal. Maybe open your mind and follow the lead of someone you respect, instead of writing them into the narrative you want to exist to despise.

Dude is pragmatic. If he's voting Biden to stop autocracy and the end of free elections, maybe you should consider it. (And I hate what's happening in Gaza. So just don't.)

You have the rest of your ballot. Coming from someone who actively supported primarying Pelosi last election, and DSA candidates.

[-] xarexyouxmadx@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

If you truly hated what was going on in Palestine you wouldn't be casting a vote for the son of a bitch arming and funding it but like many of the other selfish Americans you will throw Palestinians under the bus for some vague/meager gains for yourselves.

No discipline. No solidarity. Just me, me, me, & me.

So go ahead. Protect a "woman's right to choose"or whatever you have to tell yourself to still be able to look at yourself in the mirror while pregnant women in Palestine have to have C-section's without any anesthetic at all...Not to mention the grade school aged kids having to get limbs amputated under the same conditions.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I'm not sure why what's going on in Gaza has any bearing on who you choose to vote for in the upcoming election. It's not a wedge issue. There are no opposing viewpoints. Joe Biden is the Democratic nominee and he supports Israel. Donald Trump is the presumptive nominee and if he can manage to dodge prison and get elected again he will also support Israel. I'd be willing to bet money that if there were any 3rd party or independent candidates that even had a shadow's chance of winning, they'd be in support of Israel too.

This is not a flippant political stance that can be changed on a whim, it's decades of foreign policy in motion, stuff that was agreed upon long before this particular conflict erupted.

Not casting a vote for Joe Biden when you otherwise would (either by not voting or voting for 3rd party) due to the situation in Gaza is not going to send the correct message. The message that they will get if/when he loses is "The right had a better platform than we did" because they aren't going to see the issue of Gaza as being significantly different enough to cause voters to flee the party, especially when the alternative is literal fascism.

Republicans love this narrative right now and are hammering away at it at every opportunity. They are hoping that Democrats do themselves in by depressing their own voter turnout so they can win with their razor thin margins in gerrymandered districts.

[-] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

If you truly hated what was going on in Palestine you would have got a flight to Israel and be joining the fight.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Tell me your opinions on Russian aggression and then about your last tour in the Ukrainian military then. Unless you like that aggression, you can go take your own advice.

[-] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I think you missed my point. You also assume I didn't join the foreign legion

[-] DeadWorld@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

I know it was going to happen, but I always hope they hold out for maximum leverage inconsessions for the nomination. Hopefully this can buy less broken skulls durring this general strike thats happening

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