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[-] starflower 243 points 9 months ago

Your friendly reminder that the Brave CEO is Mozillas old CEO, who was fired from Mozilla for being unapologetically homophobic.

[-] VerseAndVermin@lemmy.world 66 points 9 months ago

Since everyone else is piling on negatively, I appreciated your friendly reminder.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 44 points 9 months ago

So?

What I care about in this story is the technical issues.

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 38 points 9 months ago

Then you can not act on it and those of us who care about such things can. Does that bother you?

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[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

technical issues

Well technically the CEO would have an issue with you if you were gay

Lmao

[-] starflower 28 points 9 months ago

O...kay? I don't really care lmao

[-] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Pay no attention to the butthurt shills.

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Wait why are you on the privacy community when you don't care about the parts that are specifically related to privacy?

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[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He wasn't fired. He voluntarily left. And thus Mozilla is left with an incompetent CEO whose only aim is to increase her paycheck year after year, despite pathetic market share results for FF. Enjoy that.

That said, nobody cares about your "friendly remainders". We're talking about software here, not politics.

And, to stay on topic, yes, it happened to me that Strict FP broke some website, in particular those displaying a frame with a map or similar stuff. So I've resorted to use "standard" FP myself.

[-] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 96 points 9 months ago

nobody cares about your "friendly remainders". We're talking about software here, not politics.

Nah. I care. You dont speak for me. I cant tell if you're a shill for Brave or a MAGAt or both.

[-] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago

Wow. The internet must be really rough for you if people don’t wear labels so you know who to hate before learning a damn thing about them!

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 25 points 9 months ago

Yeah, it's terrible when an entire group of people are discriminated against for a label.

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[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

I'm not a shill for Brave. It has its fair share of technical issues but it's the less worse browser for my use case (better than FF, anyway). Your (or mine) opinion on the CEO has nothing to do with the technical issue discussed in OP's link.

And no, what MAGA are you talking about? I'm not even 'murican. Take your meds, dude.

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago

Take your meds, dude.

It’s 2024 you should know this is a terrible thing to say to people.

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[-] LWD@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago

Do you hate the Brave CEO for doing the same thing as the Mozilla CEO, but with even less restraint?

Or are you just whining in hopes that nobody will question whether you're being a hypocrite

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[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 13 points 9 months ago

Technology and ethics and politics are not airgapped magically distinct things. Pretending that they are is a strategic political choice you are actively making.

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[-] Rose@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

Worse than merely being homophobic, as he financially supported politicians and causes that worked to prevent equal rights.

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[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 130 points 9 months ago

The scam company brave? The one that scams people? With their scam based crypto rewards that don't pay out? THAT brave?

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 117 points 9 months ago

There's no reason to hate Brave unless you have a political bias against their CEO.

Besides in 2016, when Brave promised to remove banner ads from websites and replace them with their own, basically trying to extract money directly from websites without the consent of their owners

And when the CEO unilaterally added a fringe, pay-to-win Wikipedia clone into the default search engine list.

And in 2018, Tom Scott and other creators noticed Brave was soliciting donations in their names without their knowledge or consent.

And in 2020, when Brave got caught injecting URLs with affiliate codes when users tried browsing to various websites.

Also in 2020, when they silently started injecting ads into their home page backgrounds, pocketing the revenue. There was a lot of pushback: "the sponsored backgrounds give a bad first impression." Further requests were ignored (immediately closed)

And in 2022, when Brave floated the idea of further discouraging users from disabling sponsored messages.

And in 2023, when Brave got caught installing a paid VPN service on users' computers without their consent.

[-] drislands@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago

But other than that, there's no reason!

[-] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

You're right, no reason at all :)

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[-] tazy@lemmy.tazy.xyz 110 points 9 months ago

fuck brave all my homies hate brave

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 93 points 9 months ago

Honestly you really should be using Firefox.

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[-] bc1@lemmy.l0l.city 89 points 9 months ago

Whenever people tell me to use Brave, I know they fall for marketing very easily

[-] Samueru@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Braves default fingerprinting protection is better than the one that librewolf uses, or at least it is according to the EFF.

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[-] moitoi@feddit.de 57 points 9 months ago

Brave to end 'Strict' fingerprinting protection as it breaks owns ad revenue.

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[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 44 points 9 months ago

Another issue is that Strict mode is used by roughly 0.5% of Brave's users, with the rest using the default setting, which is the Standard mode.

How are they getting this data? If it's with telemetry this data doesn't seem reliable, I doubt that people who change the fingerprint setting don't disable telemetry.

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[-] LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol 38 points 9 months ago

I used brave for a while, but left as I felt there was something fishy about them. Seems I was right

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[-] const_void@lemmy.ml 33 points 9 months ago
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[-] Byter@lemmy.one 19 points 9 months ago

I'd ask why they don't make it optional (I'm not a Brave user) but it seems it was.

Another issue is that Strict mode is used by roughly 0.5% of Brave's users, with the rest using the default setting, which is the Standard mode.

This low percentage actually makes these users more vulnerable to fingerprinting despite them using the more aggressive blocker, because they constitute a discernible subset of users standing out from the rest.

Given that, I'm inclined to agree with the decision to remove it. Pick your battles and live to fight another day.

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[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

I'd rather have the sites break to be honest

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