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[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 27 points 2 years ago

Oh look - more intellectually dishonest anti-vaping propaganda...

I smoked for thirty years before I discovered vaping and switched. My lungs feel better now than they have at any other point within my memory.

But if whichever lying shitstains are responsible for this clearly deliberate propaganda campaign had their way about it, I would've never gotten that chance, and I'd still be smoking, and dying or dead.

And why? What's their goal? Why are they trying so hard, and so brazeny dishonestly, to undermine a thing that can save lives? What's their interest in making it impossible for people like me to have an alternative that's undeniably at the very least MUCH less of a health risk? Why do they want smokers to keep smoking, and keep dying?

[-] Ooops@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Why spend so much on propaganda against vaping. Just do it like they did in my country and pay a few lobbyists so they increase the taxes on liquids by 5000% so the tabacco companies can take over that market with harmful e-waste disposables, too. *sigh*

[-] Phillmebucket@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 years ago

More bullshit without all the facts. The two cases of popcorn lung were directly linked to the binding agent propylene glycol in one batch of "overseas" vape liquid. Now I'm not stupid enough to think that sucking any type of substance into your lung besides oxygen is ideal but it's one hell of a lot better that conventional combustion smoking.

[-] JoBo@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

The two cases of popcorn lung were directly linked to the binding agent propylene glycol in one batch of “overseas” vape liquid.

Propylene glycol is a bog standard diluent for e-liquid, usually used in combination with vegetable glycerin. I don't know which country you're in but at least some of its domestic e-juice makers use PG for sure.

Popcorn lung is associated with diacetyl and other diketones used in food flavouring (it's called popcorn lung because the harms were first noticed in workers making popcorn). It should be banned for use in vapes but Big Food is still fighting off compensation claims so the various regulatory authorities worldwide have been slow to name it as a risk of vaping. Some e-juice manufacturers take pains to avoid it anyway.

[-] this_is_router@feddit.de 22 points 2 years ago

what a load of bullocks:

Scientists still don’t fully understand the association between vaping and lung disease, so it’s unclear what role vaping may have played in Allard’s case.

[-] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 9 points 2 years ago

@return2ozma The heck did he vape to get his lungs that bad at age 22? Tar smoke?

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Folks sure like defending vaping. "Hey our addiction is better than the old addiction that was also presented as not that harmful until we found out it was harmful, but vaping isn't for sure because trust me bro."

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