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[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 228 points 8 months ago

No matter how expensive a home sim you make, it won't ever get be even a quarter of what an actual entry amateur plane costs to buy and maintain. It's not even the plane itself either, it's all the recurring costs like storage, maintenance, spare parts, fuel, certification fees, taxes, etc. The only cheap flight option for a recreational pilot is bushcraft light planes. And they will still cost more than the sim setup, while you'll only be able to fly it on certain places, during certain weather, at certain times of the year. The rest of the time you'll still have to pay all the storage and maintenance fees. Planes are incredibly expensive.

[-] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 50 points 8 months ago

Yeah, you’ll be able to actually use it when life allows you, vs restructuring your whole life around being able to fly.

Now we just need one for where millionaires think their work is saving the world. Apparently the city building sims aren’t sufficient.

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[-] Cornpop@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

Yes and no. I bought a property with a double wide and a 5000 square foot hangar on it located on a private strip. The rent from the double wide and the other hangar spots I rent pays the mortgage and all the expenses related to the property. I own a j3 cub that I have about 30k into that I fly daily in Florida and maintain it myself for practically nothing. Affordable aviation is possible but you have to be very smart about how you go about doing it, and a good bit of luck is involved to get the right deals by being in the right place at the right time.

[-] DasAlbatross@lemmy.world 47 points 8 months ago

Oh sure, just go buy a big enough property to have a hanger and a private landing strip on it. Cheap and easy!

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[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

Yes, but I bet that if you break down the accounting it would still be several times the cost of the setup on the photo. Home sims typically don't carry an additional mortgage payment or a lifestyle commitment.

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[-] Zaros@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

Plus I'm afraid of heights.

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[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

I looked into getting a pilots license and a plane once thinking maybe it would be more fun than flying commercial.

The license to fly just a dinky Cessna would be expensive af and I would only be able to afford a Cessna from 1982 or some shit anyway AND they only have a range of like 300 miles or some shit.

To actually go anywhere beyond my state I'd need a private jet license which is even more expensive takes a while and WAY outside of affordability.

Ah well guess I'm stuck driving or flying commercial

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[-] db2@lemmy.world 109 points 8 months ago

All that hardware and then just.. a chair.

[-] AverageGoob@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago

Not to mention the Ikea table.

[-] Venator@lemmy.nz 23 points 8 months ago

They're probably saving up to build a motion simulation rig.

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 24 points 8 months ago

And only one monitor too. Would have expected 3-4 to give a better view.

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[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 15 points 8 months ago

Yeah you ain't gonna be buying a plane if you're using the cheapest office chair you found at a thrift store.

Unless this is to help save up for said plane.

Let's leave the chair out of this!

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[-] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 95 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Most people mention the costs of owning aircraft vs a sim, but there's another possible reason: health. People come in different shapes and forms and not everyone who loves aviation is able to get II or even III medical class. So flight simulation is their only option to be a "pilot".

I mean, on VATSIM (popular aviation simulation network) there's a group of visually impaired people who have made a special interface so they can fly an aircraft even though they can't see!

Simulation (of any kind) gives many people what they can't get in any other way. And as with any other hobby, as long as it's not damaging to other aspects of your life, let people enjoy what they want

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[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 73 points 8 months ago

The double-standard on display here is just disgusting. Sure, it's perfectly fine to modify your home entertainment system into a fake airplane but I try a little remodeling to make work feel more like home and it's all "security will escort you off the premises" and "we're taking away your pilot's license". Boils my blood.

[-] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 21 points 8 months ago

I know, right?

Modified your PC into a flight sim and no one bat an eye.

Modified your cockpit into a gaming rig and everyone losses their mind.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 59 points 8 months ago

That's just a mid-range setup. The real simmers have at least 3 monitors.

[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

Monitors are probably the cheapest part of a flight sim setup too

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Real simmers have a VR headset and one of those human gyroscope things that spins on 3 axes.

[-] PilferJynx@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Man, at some point it might be cheaper to buy a plane.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago

A plane. A cheap, 2-4 seat prop plane. A full sim rig can fly ANY PLANE and spaceships too!

I am not in any way a sim gamer of any of these sorts. My inputs are keyboard, mouse, or controller. And I suck at everything I play, and I try to limit my gaming time (and expenditures on gaming).

But I kind of get it, you know?

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 48 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Some of those things for PC flight sims are straight up real cockpit pieces. Dude is simply buying his plane one bit at a time until he can assemble the whole thing.

I've installed Internet for a dude who had a setup this gnarly. And to top it all off, he lived on a piece of land attached to an aircraft museum. He really loves planes.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 20 points 8 months ago

Some people are so dedicated to their hobbies and I love seeing it.

An extended family member of mine hosted a reunion at his house years ago, and he apparently lived in a neighborhood where many people have small airplane hangars attached to their houses instead of a normal garage. It was nuts. You're just walking through a normal-looking house in a normal-looking suburban neighborhood, go through what would otherwise be a garage door, and suddenly you're in a big hangar.

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[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 39 points 8 months ago

Do you know how much it costs to annual a Cessna 172? You could build 3 of these rigs a year for what the aviation equivalent of a 1988 Toyota Camry costs to maintain and fuel.

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[-] brlemworld@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago

Planes are expensive AF to maintain

[-] rainynight65@feddit.de 37 points 8 months ago

Only a single monitor, and then it's not even an ultrawide?

What kind of a low-rent setup is this?

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[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

The FAA and similar entities won't let pilots do all the fun and crazy shit they want to do that they can do in sim games.

Try buzzing a neighborhood in your plane, watch how fast you lose your pilots license, much safer doing this stuff in a sim.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 35 points 8 months ago

I'd say good chance this guy does have a plane.

[-] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

I'd put money that he has at least a small plane. I work in the motorcycle industry and there's a large overlap between pilots and motorcycle riders for some reason. Quite a few private pilots have pretty well set up flight sim rigs at home. Not to this extreme, but most have the basics for running MS Flight Simulator

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 21 points 8 months ago

"pilots and motorcycle riders for some reason"

The suicide drive is strong. Also, I blame top gun.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 35 points 8 months ago

I’m doing the same with my work from home set-up. I even have a mannequin dressed up as a “boss” who hovers at my shoulder while I try to get stuff done .

[-] Kase@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

“boss” who hovers at my shoulder while I try to get stuff done

A cat would also work for this.

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[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Lol first thing I thought of, 4/10, cool control panels, but not even a large curved display

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[-] Quexotic@infosec.pub 26 points 8 months ago

The $20 chair is definitely a statement of priorities and my favorite part of the image.

[-] vrojak@kbin.social 21 points 8 months ago

It's not even a full motion setup, you can go way more expensive and still be cheaper than an actual plane

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Chair isn't even articulated, 6/10 tops, I wonder if he even has force feedback.

[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Someone posts something kinda cool.

Doofuses of the internet: we must find all the faults to prove how much smarter we are

This is probably a work in progress. And this person may not have the same preferences and priorities as you for their own personal setup.

[-] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 18 points 8 months ago

Pretty cool with the overhead and side panels.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

just buy a plane

Yeah, I don't think you can get a Mig-29 or a F-16 off e-bay, amazon or craigslist.

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[-] Schal330@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago
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