I'm going to suggest Matrix (or an old school IRC) over Discord at this point. No reason to direct from lemmy back to a closed commercial ecosystem.
Precisely as I stated earlier. I think Fosscord is probably the best solution, once we have access to a Spacebar (i.e. Fosscord) client build (their entire site has been pulled down).
I've never heard of Fosscord - why that vs Matrix?
Familiarity, if anything. Since it's basically Discord but self hosted and open source, I think a lot more users will have an easier time with it.
I just got on Matrix recently, and in my limited use it seems basically Discord to me? At least if you use Element Web UI I guess.
Shrug. I wouldn't be against Matrix, per se.
I'd honestly rather keep things open source and get a Spacebar chat server set up. I don't think it'll be long before Discord goes the way of Reddit.
I’ve been feeling this way about Discord for a while now. Their month long birthday spam was the icing on the cake for me.
Discord, Reddit, Twitter are in the same boat in my eyes.
This is absolutely the correct take.
This and the unnecessary change to the usernames.
So, so fucking stupid. That was the last straw that caused me to delete my account and never look back. It's turning into Twitter, but run by someone not named Elon Musk.
True. I never understood the need for it to be so mainstream social media-esque. I do understand that to some degree a chat application is social media but it doesn't need to have so many unnecessary "features" (aka "bloat"). The last good feature was desktop screensharing.
At the end of the day, it feels like Discord lost sight of their market somewhere. Chat apps need to support chat, and do so well. Does Discord do that? I...wouldn't say so. Not anymore, at least.
Glad I'm not insane. Thanks for confirming my opinion.
Firsr time I've heard of Spacebar. I like the name but could Matrix also be an option? I've been using that for quite some time and a lot of open source projects have a Matrix space nowadays.
edit: Spacebar is actually Fosscord.
Yeah I should have clarified that last bit, so my apologies for leaving that information out. But I'd be down with any free and open source solution.
Do you know how to set up Spacebar?
At the moment I don't think any of their build info is openly available. But I could probably help with the set up once that does become available. Do you happen to know anyone willing to host though? That's going to be the question.
I think a time will eventually come where we should introduce a chat group... but only once we've saturated the available bandwidth that this core community provides. Until then, we should focus on directing conversations into community text posts to drum up activity & interest rather than hiding them with a sidechannel.
FWIW: when the day does come, I'd rather we don't use Discord. Part of my aversion to Discord is personal -- I think it's a bloated and annoying application -- but I mainly just don't feel like it's apropos to Lemmy's culture. We're on a federated FOSS community, so let's keep to that and use a federated FOSS chat protocol (i.e.: matrix).
I also suggest Matrix instead of Discord.
Discourse is FOSS and is fairly easy to host. I agree with sentiments that running right back to close source is probably not what the bulk of people here want. But then again most people use steam so I am a walking contradiction.
I think if better alternatives existed, and were close to being as convenient, people would jump.
For now rather not, If we must have something then I would like it to be self hosted and FOSS.
What's the concern of using the /r/anime's server? Note that I'm working on the assumption that we're an offshoot of Reddit's community here.
If we want an open chat service, I'dd look into Matrix, which is federated like kbin/lemmy. Its also a work in progress, but it does support both text chat and voice/video chat. And it does have rudimentary "spaces" which lets you group channels and such, which makes it easy for people to discover the channels in our community.
Anime; the one thing that gets us closer to each other and brings us together.
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