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(Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin, running for a new six-year term in an election that his opponents say is a parody of democracy, said on Tuesday that past U.S. elections had been rigged by postal voting.

"In the United States, previous elections were falsified through postal voting ... they bought ballots for $10, filled them out, and threw them into mailboxes without any supervision from observers, and that's it," Putin said, without providing evidence.

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[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 198 points 1 year ago

And watch MAGA eat this shit up.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 101 points 1 year ago

Why would putin lie about such a thing? I'm going to blindly believe him since it confirms my existing beliefs.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

I mean, he does know a thing or two about rigged elections.

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[-] jas0n@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

This 100%. The Russian propaganda to right wing talking heads pipeline is just so painfully obvious.

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 110 points 1 year ago

Elections have been rigged for a long, long time. Gerrymandering is absolutely insane. Cities with meandering sections cut off. Disadvantaged suburbs slammed into afluent areas across town to dilute the votes.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 year ago

But not rigged in the way Putin and the Republicans claim. Rigged in ways that help them.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

"In the United States, previous elections were falsified through postal voting ... they bought ballots for $10, filled them out, and threw them into mailboxes without any supervision from observers, and that's it,"

Problem - That's not the way vote by mail works.

  1. You register to vote and place a signature on file.

  2. You get your ballot in the mail and vote.

  3. You put the ballot in the mailing envelope and sign the back of the envelope.

  4. When the ballot is returned, they compare the signature on the envelope with the signature on file, if it matches, the ballot is set aside for counting.

  5. If there's a PROBLEM:

A) Missing signature
B) Signature doesn't match
C) Ballot damaged or unreadable
D) Ballot already recorded as present

The ballot gets returned to the voter for correction, assuming there's enough time for it to be corrected.

What Putin describes wouldn't work, because the fake ballots either wouldn't have a signature, wouldn't have a valid signature, or wouldn't correspond to a registered voter.

[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Won't matter, he is speaking directly to MAGAs, and they already believe that this is the truth

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You know how the Nigerian prince scams intentionally use terrible English to filter out the stupid ones?

Half the people you come across are below average. Technology has made it exceptionally effective to target the dumb and vulnerable.

[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Plus no one is allowed to supervise your ballot entries.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The supervision is the signature comparison, just like in person voting where you'd go in, sign the register, and they'd compare that signature to the one on file.

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[-] EdanGrey@sh.itjust.works 67 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, a Putin, the bastion of honesty and truth.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Well, this one is a confession from him

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pot calling Kettle black, but he ain't even wrong.

Not even getting into the Brooks Brothers Riots or Operation Eagle Eye or the straight explicit rigging of Jim Crow, the modern political class fully endorses rigging elections

Putin knows the US elections can be rigged because he's had his hands on the levers of power. But he's hardly unique in that regard. Certainly, not given how we've eviscerated the Voting Rights Act over the last twenty years.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yes he IS wrong, what the fuck???

The brooks brothers riots had nothing to do with mail in voting, neither did any of the other examples you gave. If you’re going to say he’s right you need to qualify that since he specifically stated postal voting as the medium for rigging.

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[-] Landmammals@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

So weird that Trump and Putin have the exact same opinions. Do you think Trump is controlling Putin?

[-] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] 5in1k@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago

Putin dying will be a holiday.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And he wouldn't lie would he. Internationally known as being a reasonable person that he is.

God, what a stupid article, why the hell was this even reported? Oh never mind it's Yahoo news, that's why

[-] zik@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

I mean he should know since he was one of the people paying to influence the election.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

phew I thought Russian elections were rigged too, glad to hear that is not the case, what a real relief

[-] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

"by me lelelelelelelel" - Putin prolly

[-] Shotgun_Alice@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Say it with me kids, Projection.

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[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Rhetoric of this sort just promotes distrust in election systems, which of course prompts demagogues like Trump to promise voters they can fix it if they gain power. The fun thing here is that the right here needs you to believe things that aren't true in order to justify them doing a coup, the stupid thing is that stupid people take this kind of talk seriously.

But seriously, American voting is relatively secure- it's just that where lawmakers don't want voters deciding the 'wrong' way they've gerrymandered them into districts to prevent them doing it, and they've done things to strip voters of their voting rights and to suppress voting and to make it inconvenient or difficult to vote. This has been a bipartisan thing in the past, but today the GOP are the chief offenders.

Also, Putin's Russia is in the stage of democracy where elections are an exercise in flaunting the death of democracy itself, and nobody should ever take his talk about elections as being in good faith, ever

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[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Protecting bitch, Putin rigs Russian elections and tried to rig ours again but failed. Fuck him

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[-] Ltcpanic@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

This post is disinformation

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

He didn't say that?

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[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 14 points 1 year ago

Once again proving the old adage that every accusation from the fascists is a confession, in Russia too.

[-] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Who cares what that failed czar pussy says kek

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Even the one that trump won?

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Especially the one Trump 'won'.

Rigged primarily by the electoral college by making some people's votes worth more than others.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hey Putin, we're all saving up for the gigantic party we're gonna throw when you blow your (meager collection of) irradiated brains out all over your disheveled office.

Also the table you use for meetings is SMALL!

[-] Yewb@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I love the logic pivot on people who in the 90s thought russia was just straight up evil are now looking at them as the bastion of conservative ideals...

Go move to Russia boys, oh you don't want to? Why not they apparently have it all figured out.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Source: Trust me bro Trump.

[-] Wermhatswormhat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Because he has the receipt 😂

[-] acceptable_pumpkin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

$10 a ballot sounds steep. I wonder if they offered a Costco sized box for cheaper? Maybe people should look for ballots off a knock-off site.

[-] badhops@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I saw an empty slot at my Costco where the Kirkland ballots were supposed to be

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Interesting.

Seems like they're going to be shooting for an off election cycle coup, since their last one failed and its not quite time for the next window of opportunity.

The supreme court taking up Trumps case the most significant case in the history of the United States. It will decide if our constitution has any real meaning (in some ways, it determines the tests the very legitimacy of constitutionalism as a system). The language of the constitution, and the interpretation of this amendment is very cut and dry. No one can reasonably argue it wasn't designed, and intended to prevent Trump or Trump-like candidates. It was an insurrection against the United States of America. He not only partook in it, he led it, supported it.

So this may be a signal that Putin thinks the Supreme Court will rule against Trump. Go ahead and start seeding the doubt around the next election cycle now.

It may also be a sign for something far more nefarious, that perhaps rather than allowing a ruling to happen, Trump goes for a coup-in-name-only, makes the claim that the election was stolen, and that he is 'President-in-Abstentia' sitting in Moscow. Then gets his lackies to make road blocks across the country, idk.

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

I had to double take to make sure it wasn't Jokes and Humor but actually World News

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

He should know.

[-] elephantium@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Well, if anyone knows about rigging elections, Putin certainly qualifies!

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

oops! he forgot to activate the Trump puppet first, lol

[-] AshMan85@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

He would know. He was the one providing the outside interference

[-] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Putin’s the type of dude who would steal your wallet and then help you look for it

[-] Deello@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

He's right you know. He's just not saying it's the Republicans who are benefitting.

Supreme Court nominations, Republicans benefit. Voter suppression/intimidation, Republicans benefit.
Recounting elections (Gore vs Bush), Republicans benefit.
Tossing votes before they get counted, Republicans benefit.

Articles like this just prove that this country isn't really paying attention anymore. Everybody has mentally checked out. And I don't blame them, this is exhausting. But it's all to the Republicans benefit.

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

“I should know, I did it.” -Pooteen

[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Rigged by him

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