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Video of Vice President Kamala Harris speaking is here

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[-] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 64 points 2 years ago
[-] charles@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

Then vote.

Everyone:

Too much work

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I know that I and people around me will be actively working to keep Trump out of office. That means kicking in money and volunteer time if you can. If you have the means, consider a fall trip to help out in a swing state or a swing congressional district.

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Do you know how hard Republicans make it to vote in the districts that matter? Your glib comment suggests you don't.

[-] charles@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I'm quite well aware. The supreme Court says the way to fix that is to vote them out. Not much else to do.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Not much else to do.

Well, except for all the tactics the Supreme Court doesn't approve of.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Great motivation to vote. They might have a shitty idea of what competent leadership looks like, but at least Republicans fight for their rights when they think someone is trying to take them away.

Keep pretending that voting doesn't matter and it'll eventually come true, and much sooner than you can imagine. People have literally died by the millions to achieve the democracy we take for granted. But it's not granted, it's earned by societies who remain vigilant and actively defend it.

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Keep pretending that voting doesn’t matter and it’ll eventually come true, and much sooner than you can imagine.

Who is doing this? Certainly not me. Thanks for the lecture though.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Not talking to you, talking to any potential non-voters who might read your comment and think "true, it's the politicians fault, not mine"

If I need to look like an asshole lecturer with a stick up my ass for the next 10 months then so be it, I want my kids to live in a democracy like I did.

[-] dirtypirate@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

How's voting working out for the Puerto Ricans? the Cherokee? Creek?, Sioux? Iraqis? El Salvadorians?

whether you vote for Drone'Bomba's war mongering fascist or Putin's war mongering fascist... doesn't matter to the people you enslave.

like chickens coming home to roost, all that evil shit the USA has been doing is coming around and you ALL deserve it.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

What country are you from?

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

So edgy, bro.

[-] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Right?

So, like, do something then??

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Its because we dont collectively stop what we're doing and protest until the asphalt comes off the streets. Whether theres too many people, the powers are too adept at herd splitting, or any other reason, we do not scare the people in control enough anymore. Remember, every right you enjoy was written in blood. This is what was meant by refreshing the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots. Dregs and downtrodden of the world unite, and break the dawn that was taken from you.

[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The fascism party is doing a fascism and the only solution is to vote for the fascism lite party.

Wow guys, we're seriously going to act like the government everyone is defending as "not fascist lite" isn't actively funding and enabling genocide right now?

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 33 points 2 years ago

Sometimes, stopping fascism means actually working within an alliance between moderates and those further left. I've got no problem doing that.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Let me know when an actual alliance happens. Did the moderates concede anything in the name of alliance or simply demand the left move rightward and tell them there is no alternative? Wasnt Pelosi endorsing primary challenges against progressives in Trumps term? Doesn't really sound like they're making alliances.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Started happening in 2020.

The part I pay close attention to is climate. We got the carrot portions of the Green New Deal enacted as the Inflation Reduction Act.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The inflation reduction act as passed can't hold a candle to the worst parts of the green new deal, they couldn't even touch minimum wage. If thats alliance, I'd hate to be their enemy.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's what we could get through the Senate. That body is designed to favor the most conservative.

I'll take what I can actually get over an actively hostile government any day

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Now you're moving the goalposts what happened to the supposed alliance? Im not talking about what you'll take out of a broken legislature, im saying there has been no effort on an actual alliance with anyone to the left of centerist democrats. No longer endorsing people who challenge them is hardly an alliance. Neither is what every other country would simply call a normal infrastructure bill. If things like preventing bridges from falling down and fixing roads long out of spec is a gift to progressives, then the Democrats are truly an incompetent party and there's little hope anything gets done regardless of who's in charge.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 years ago

Hardly. We got what what was possible as a minority within the Democratic party which held an incredibly narrow margin in the Senate.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago

Without involvement, we'd have gotten less than nothing, so you're just trolling.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You started talking about alliances, and when pushed for any indication that's real you now avoid talking about it all together. I'm not the troll here. We were talking about some prospective alliance and you failed to substantiate any proof such a thing exists, all you can do is detract from the point of the exchange. That's exactly what moving the goalposts is, the one trolling is you.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago

Oh yes, trying to reverse victim and offender. Standard troll behavior.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Im not the one who can't answer the question, where is the evidence of the alliance you claim? You must have spent four responses dodging that question, troll. You made a claim you can't back up and now cant even acknowledge it so instead the entirety of your comment is name calling. Keep astroturfing opinions you cant substantiate though, that's very Democrat of you.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Theyve given you the illusion you have a seat at their table. There is no changing the way the oligarchy works. They will do nothing that impacts their power, there is no reforming within

[-] IHasAHat@startrek.website 9 points 2 years ago

Ok cool, you better not fucking vote then or you're a hypocrite.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Well no shit

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Is the choice between getting stabbed 3 times vs getting stabbed 2 times also a conundrum for you? Perhaps you just sit it out and let the stabber decide?

[-] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't call them fascism lite, more like left/cener-authoritarianism. The proper language is essential.

[-] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Very rich, coming from the DNC who outright cancelled their own Primaries not even allowing members to vote for ANY other candidates than who they already decided.

Do these people do not own mirrors or do they really think everyone of them plebs they look down onto are stupid?

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago

You can in fact vote for whoever you want in the Democratic primaries. It's just that Biden has something like 70% or more support.

[-] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Literally a 3 second search. I mean, why lie?

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/30/florida-democrats-dean-phillips-election-00129403

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/opinion/columns/2023/12/14/cancellation-of-florida-democratic-primary-could-hurt-the-party/71904037007/

The point, to anyone with eyes, is that debates are a healthy way to measure a candidate's skills and mental capacity and to be seen in touch with the interests of the American people. Also, it gives at least the impression of a Democracy. Not here, however. Not even opening the door is anti-democratic. Hence my point. Worth noting that Biden won in NH yesterday despite not even being in the ballot. The miracles of mail voting, amiright? https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4418655-biden-new-hampshire-democratic-primary-ballot/ Man, is there such thing as TOO MUCH Democratic transparency? Can you feel it? I can.

Worth nothing that Biden's popularity is through the floor throughout the USA. This should not and cannot be ignored. So your claim does not hold as much water as you think it does. https://news.gallup.com/poll/547763/biden-ends-2023-job-approval.aspx

My take is that they will flip Biden for Newson with people have no say on it. But we will see if that happens, if that happens, remember this post! :-)

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

NH has almost no vote-by-mail ballots; the state has fairly narrow criteria for getting one

Biden won the NH primary because people showed up to vote in person and wrote his name in.

What you're doing is conspiracy-mongering.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Vice President Kamala Harris warned on Monday that American freedom was “under profound threat” in a speech honoring the Rev.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in South Carolina, amplifying a message that the Biden administration has made a rallying cry of its re-election bid.

She urged the crowd of more than 100 to continue to fight for the constitutional promises Dr. King spent his life holding America accountable for.

Ms. Harris visited Myrtle Beach on Jan. 6, the third anniversary of the deadly attack on the Capitol, and delivered a similar message as she and Mr. Biden, who was in Charleston two days later, try to rally Black voters.

In Columbia, Ms. Harris stopped at a campaign event, where she reiterated to supporters that there was “a full-on, intentional attack against hard-fought and hard-won freedoms and rights.”

Ms. Harris also told supporters that it was South Carolinans who helped inform some of the administration’s most successful policies, such as expanding access to high-speed internet in rural areas, tackling the removal of lead pipes and lowering insulin prices.


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[-] ULS@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Just another head of the 836193 headed beast.

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