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Hamas and friends should be obliterated, they are disgusting
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So it's false because Israel bombed the building they were in and killed them, or it's false because Hamas released the video?
This is what I don't get here. Why the hell do people interpret this as if it's spreading Israeli propaganda?
We know Hamas killed substantial number of innocent people and are keeping hostages.
We know these hostages are kept somewhere in Gaza.
We know Israel is bombing the shit out of Gaza, actively destroying civilian infrastructure.
What we learn from this is that Israel has indeed killed hostages in their indiscriminate bombing, that Hamas seem to be keeping hostages alive when they are not killed by Israeli bombs, and that being held hostage by Hamas in Gaza is still an awful situation to be in.
If this makes Hamas look bad it's because they are bad.
If you think it makes Israel look good you're sick in the head - this is triggered by them intentionally bombing Gaza until there's nothing left.
If you're upset that it makes a Jewish person look human then fuck right off you worthless piece of shit.
I'm upset because I'm Jewish and now I have to use a disclaimer "but fuck bibi"
I have to admit I've had this approach taking to Israelites for a while - I never felt comfortable in a conversation before having some sort of an indication of their political leaning. Israelites seem to often have a way of talking about things without talking about things, which usually makes it clear pretty quickly where they stand. I guess they also often feel a need to place themselves.
As for Jewish people living outside of Israel, I think the fact that they've all had a standing invitation to move to Israel and opted not to make use of it speaks for itself. Sure there are Bibi supporters, but that goes for Christians as well.
Still I see where you're coming from of course. And I find it freaking terrifying to be honest.
The thing for me is I wanted to become a dual citizen because hey Israel is where my people are from why wouldn't I want to but I was much younger and as I grew up I felt felt drive to do so. At first it was because I'm a pacifist and refused to join any military. Now I'm of age I can dodge that but I see what the country is doing and how could I in good conscience want to be a part of that?
So I'll be a Jew and I'll speak out against tyranny as I have and thus I speak out against the actions of the Israeli military and government. I'm not a fan of how Hamas acted before the start of this genocide but no matter how much I didn't like that I can't say Israel's response is in any way justifiable. This is a slaughter of innocents and that is not Judaism as I know it. This is not what God would want us to do.
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It's less trustworthy as a source because they're using loaded terms in the article. The headline calls it a "sick video", labels it as "propagandist". Those are terms intended to provoke a reaction: 'sick' is an attempt to prime your reaction if you watch the video, 'propagandistic' is intended to make you distrust the intent behind the video.
An impartial journalist would've used different language or added sources. If I was writing the article, I would've called it a 'new video' or perhaps a 'newly-released video'. I wouldn't have used 'propagandistic' at all; the speculation on the intent behind it is adequately covered a few paragraphs later. If you were intent on calling it propagandistic, that wording should be credited to a specific person, preferably an Israeli government spokesperson or a high-ranking official.
Using loaded words should only ever be done in clearly labeled opinion columns or letters to the editor (although honestly, I'm against their presence even there); if used in a news article, they should only be used when quoting a person.
Objectively, I know that loaded words are going to be impossible to avoid: even describing someone as a 'Hamas fighter' vs a 'Hamas terrorist' is fraught, and don't get me started on why civilians held by Hamas are 'hostages' while civilians held by Israel are 'prisoners'. But simple, obvious terms designed to tell the reader how to feel about the news should absolutely be avoided.
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Noa Argamani, who was kidnapped from the Supernova Music Festival, said two other hostages were killed in Israeli airstrikes
In a Hostage video.
It'd be less credible if the IDF wasn't shooting half naked hostages asking for help and waving white flags.
Accidents hardly seem less likely.
And, quite frankly, they're probably better off as bombing collateral damage than a Hamas hostage Israel won't trade for anyways.
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There are 22 comments in the counter until the link but I only see one.
The only positive here is she is still alive.
this post was submitted on 15 Jan 2024
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