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[-] anteaters@feddit.de 97 points 2 years ago

Calling Germany the 3rd best for digital nomads is the biggest indicator that this list can go directly into the garbage.

[-] Sheeple@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago

Yeah lmao our laws regarding the internet are utter bogshit. And I don't mean censorship. We straight up have outdated copyright and usage laws made by geriatric old politicians who have no internet understanding

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Also, your broadband and mobile network is also pretty bad as far as Europe goes, especially compared to all your neighbours.

[-] Sheeple@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Our mobile contracts are a joke and absolutely unusable unless one pays absurd prices. And even then our "Unlimited" plans quickly get throttled into unusability.

[-] zeluko@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

The business offers are pretty good. Its like 15€/M for real Unlimited and full Speed. And even has 2 Sim cards included.
But the reception and speed you get are not very good overall once you leave cities, the best provider is only a bit better than the worst..
thanks CDU, having to spend lots of money for frequency rights really helped get better service.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

That's sad to hear. I had hoped that with cities such as Berlin, Munich and Hamburg, the Internet infrastructure would have improved

[-] MrMakabar@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

It imporved, but new software also requires better internet all the time. Hence it has to improve much faster. The good part is fiber is starting to be deployed on scale finally. Also 5g is actually deployed much faster then the previous standards, which makes catching up possible. However a lot of service providers do not offer it and it costs way more then in other EU countries.

[-] Pancito@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

The 5G thing will stop once the AfD is in power, because they believe it's some mind control tool.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

The good part is fiber is starting to be deployed on scale finally.

That's good news!

[-] ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago

It's still "Neuland" ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago

Is digital nomad the new expat? Like we got a word for it: it's immigrant.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 17 points 2 years ago

Is digital nomad the new expat?

Kind of.

Think of it like a retiree trying to find a place to live where their salary isn't tied to the local economy. It opens up a lot of places with a relatively low living expenses and high quality of life.

They are immigrants, but they are immigrants with money.

[-] nomen_dubium@startrek.website 9 points 2 years ago

you forgot: "who don't pay taxes in the country they live in" :picard:

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

To immigrate anywhere you need quite a bit of money so immigrants usually have money. Like the travel alone is quite costly, not to mention housing.

[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 10 points 2 years ago

Immigrant is the word for poor not-white people, silly. White rich people are called eXpAtS, don't you know?

/s

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago

Definitely agree. Digital immigrant, reflects the reality more

[-] boatswain@infosec.pub 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My understanding is that digital nomads are basically just long-term tourists rather than immigrants; they don't get visas that allow permanent residency or anything. Iceland's digital nomad visa, for example, only lets you stick around for 6 months, and you can't renew it more than once a year. So you really do have to be somewhat nomadic, and travel to a different country.

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[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'd actually argue against (at least Western and Northern) Europe for digital nomads, purely because you could move to somewhere in the developing world and live an incredibly comfortable lifestyle thanks to a much lower cost of living. Your mileage will vary based on what languages you speak, of course.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

The developing world has the problem of being... well, developing though. And the dictatorships.

[-] Pancito@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

And people will see you are wealthy and try to trick or mug you.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago

Living in the developing world brings its own kind of issues, medical emergencies for instance, as well as the English proficiency around you (which is probably one of the reasons the top 3 countries are DK, DE and NL)

[-] Pancito@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Germany has a low English proficiency, tho. Or did it change?

[-] bad_alloc@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago

Ju meight häf tu diehl whiz ze akzent, but owerall itsch not tu bäd ei sink. :)

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago

Probably region dependent, but the cliche seems to be that when asked, Germans say "they don't speak English very well", while actually having a quite good level (based on what visiting English speakers say, anyway)

[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Ah yes lets exploit poverty

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 years ago

There are some places of value there.

Portugal is really cheap and had programs to bring in digital nomads. Berlin has a relatively low cost of living for Germany with decent amenities.

The split between developing and developed has dissolved.

[-] Wutchilli@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

Berlin and low cost of living... Where did you get that information from?

[-] hanekam@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Berlin can be good value once you're settled. The problem is usually finding a decent apartment, not paying for it.

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[-] filister@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

No, stay away from Europe, we don't want you, our real estate prices are already sky high compared to the median wages. So don't come here!

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago

Some countries really messed up their market, such as Portugal and their golden visa

[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah my Portuguese friends have said the same. Many cant afford to buy in their own areas anymore.

[-] bedrooms@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

How can Canada with its winter rank higher than France though.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago
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[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago
Denmark
The Netherlands
Germany
Spain
Sweden
Portugal
Estonia
Lithuania
Ireland
Slovakia
[-] shartedchocolate@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Uh, yeah I'm gonna say this list can absolutely go into the garbage. Calling Denmark first is pure comedy due to the insane cost of co-working spaces, Denmark being the second worst country to integrate into after Sweden, insane rental deposits and the unreal taxes. (Researcher tax scheme excluded 😉)

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago

Do you need a co-working space if you can just work from your flat?

Integration might be an issue, but I guess the foreigners population is enough to be able to socialise. I stumbled upon a channel by Americans explaining their experience in Denmark, they managed to make friends with other foreigners https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xMJWIExwgA&t=1

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