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[-] anteaters@feddit.de 97 points 1 year ago

Calling Germany the 3rd best for digital nomads is the biggest indicator that this list can go directly into the garbage.

[-] Sheeple@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Yeah lmao our laws regarding the internet are utter bogshit. And I don't mean censorship. We straight up have outdated copyright and usage laws made by geriatric old politicians who have no internet understanding

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also, your broadband and mobile network is also pretty bad as far as Europe goes, especially compared to all your neighbours.

[-] Sheeple@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Our mobile contracts are a joke and absolutely unusable unless one pays absurd prices. And even then our "Unlimited" plans quickly get throttled into unusability.

[-] zeluko@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

The business offers are pretty good. Its like 15€/M for real Unlimited and full Speed. And even has 2 Sim cards included.
But the reception and speed you get are not very good overall once you leave cities, the best provider is only a bit better than the worst..
thanks CDU, having to spend lots of money for frequency rights really helped get better service.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

That's sad to hear. I had hoped that with cities such as Berlin, Munich and Hamburg, the Internet infrastructure would have improved

[-] MrMakabar@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

It imporved, but new software also requires better internet all the time. Hence it has to improve much faster. The good part is fiber is starting to be deployed on scale finally. Also 5g is actually deployed much faster then the previous standards, which makes catching up possible. However a lot of service providers do not offer it and it costs way more then in other EU countries.

[-] Pancito@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The 5G thing will stop once the AfD is in power, because they believe it's some mind control tool.

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[-] ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

It's still "Neuland" ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

Is digital nomad the new expat? Like we got a word for it: it's immigrant.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 17 points 1 year ago

Is digital nomad the new expat?

Kind of.

Think of it like a retiree trying to find a place to live where their salary isn't tied to the local economy. It opens up a lot of places with a relatively low living expenses and high quality of life.

They are immigrants, but they are immigrants with money.

[-] nomen_dubium@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago

you forgot: "who don't pay taxes in the country they live in" :picard:

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

To immigrate anywhere you need quite a bit of money so immigrants usually have money. Like the travel alone is quite costly, not to mention housing.

[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Immigrant is the word for poor not-white people, silly. White rich people are called eXpAtS, don't you know?

/s

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

Definitely agree. Digital immigrant, reflects the reality more

[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Immigrant suggests desire for permanent residence though.

[-] geissi@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Immigrant suggests desire for permanent residence though.

I'd rather say "long term" than permanent.
You can immigrate to a country, work there for 10 years, then emigrate again.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

Most of the digital nomads I know end up settling somewhere at some point, moving around all the time gets tiring after a while

[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Then at that time they become immigrants.

[-] boatswain@infosec.pub 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My understanding is that digital nomads are basically just long-term tourists rather than immigrants; they don't get visas that allow permanent residency or anything. Iceland's digital nomad visa, for example, only lets you stick around for 6 months, and you can't renew it more than once a year. So you really do have to be somewhat nomadic, and travel to a different country.

[-] sunbytes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I always thought it was about being Nomadic, so you're constantly moving.

So more like a permanent tourist, who is just doing their working hours during the holiday.

One week here, two weeks there etc.

I work with people who do this, so I know it exists.

[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd actually argue against (at least Western and Northern) Europe for digital nomads, purely because you could move to somewhere in the developing world and live an incredibly comfortable lifestyle thanks to a much lower cost of living. Your mileage will vary based on what languages you speak, of course.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

The developing world has the problem of being... well, developing though. And the dictatorships.

[-] Pancito@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

And people will see you are wealthy and try to trick or mug you.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago

Living in the developing world brings its own kind of issues, medical emergencies for instance, as well as the English proficiency around you (which is probably one of the reasons the top 3 countries are DK, DE and NL)

[-] Pancito@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Germany has a low English proficiency, tho. Or did it change?

[-] bad_alloc@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Ju meight häf tu diehl whiz ze akzent, but owerall itsch not tu bäd ei sink. :)

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

Probably region dependent, but the cliche seems to be that when asked, Germans say "they don't speak English very well", while actually having a quite good level (based on what visiting English speakers say, anyway)

[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Ah yes lets exploit poverty

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 year ago

There are some places of value there.

Portugal is really cheap and had programs to bring in digital nomads. Berlin has a relatively low cost of living for Germany with decent amenities.

The split between developing and developed has dissolved.

[-] Wutchilli@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Berlin and low cost of living... Where did you get that information from?

[-] hanekam@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Berlin can be good value once you're settled. The problem is usually finding a decent apartment, not paying for it.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 year ago

Compared to the rest of Western Europe it is.

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[-] filister@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

No, stay away from Europe, we don't want you, our real estate prices are already sky high compared to the median wages. So don't come here!

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

Some countries really messed up their market, such as Portugal and their golden visa

[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah my Portuguese friends have said the same. Many cant afford to buy in their own areas anymore.

[-] bedrooms@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

How can Canada with its winter rank higher than France though.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago
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[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago
Denmark
The Netherlands
Germany
Spain
Sweden
Portugal
Estonia
Lithuania
Ireland
Slovakia
[-] shartedchocolate@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Uh, yeah I'm gonna say this list can absolutely go into the garbage. Calling Denmark first is pure comedy due to the insane cost of co-working spaces, Denmark being the second worst country to integrate into after Sweden, insane rental deposits and the unreal taxes. (Researcher tax scheme excluded 😉)

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

Do you need a co-working space if you can just work from your flat?

Integration might be an issue, but I guess the foreigners population is enough to be able to socialise. I stumbled upon a channel by Americans explaining their experience in Denmark, they managed to make friends with other foreigners https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xMJWIExwgA&t=1

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