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EU antitrust chief to Tim Cook: Apple must allow third-party app stores::The European Union's Margrethe Vestager has met with leaders of US Big Tech firms to discuss their operations in the EU, and with Apple's Tim Cook concentrated on the App Store and Apple Music.

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[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 133 points 9 months ago

The EU is literally the only major entity actually trying at this point. Thank you!

[-] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Actually a bunch of other countries are considering the same thing. Including the USA.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 22 points 9 months ago

Yea, but they only copy EU, which does the hard work. So I bet nobody would do anything, if EU wouldn’t.

[-] Yoz@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago
[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

More nations should join the EU.

And NATO.

[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

How's NATO gonna join the EU?

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

we're gonna make it work. Technically all the Members are either European or were at some part european (colonies) so you're welcome, you can enter.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 8 points 9 months ago

Y'all seem to be doing fine without my vote... The United States on the other hand... Definitely needs to keep my vote...

[-] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

There's already too many non Europeans in Europe.

[-] Yoz@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

that's okay. When yo live in a capitalist economy where globalization plays an important part , you can't choose who can come and who can't. The power is not with you or me to decide. We can whine but that's about it.

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I'm already planning to do that, but the Schengen Area imposes visa restrictions on us, and there's a 20% chance I'll get denied anyway.

And no, the country that I wanna go to is not the Netherlands, despite my username looking like someone from that country. I still like it doe.

[-] Mereo@lemmy.ca 20 points 9 months ago

No, thank you. I will continue to use Apple's App Store. What made me switch to the iPhone was the fact that I could trust the apps in the App Store. I knew there was no chance of downloading malware. It's a liberating experience.

I don't want it to be like Android.

[-] ashok36@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago

I've been on android for 10+ years and never downloaded malware.

Don't try to download cracked apps and you'll be fine.

[-] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No freedom to choose

"Liberating"

Uh huh. Try thinking about other people. Just because you don't want freedom doesn't mean other people don't deserve it. You can always just choose to stick to Apple's crap if you really want to. But right now, people can't choose what they want because gaining control over their own damn device is so difficult by design. That's the point.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 22 points 9 months ago

Lol, there IS some malware in the App Store and there is not more malware in the playstore.

Only difference, on android it is easy to sideload, for example, emulators. And that there exists an alternative opensource app store (Fdroid)

[-] guywithoutaname@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

No one is forcing you to use another app store. I'm sure the operating system will also allow you to turn off apps from unknown sources just like Android. More options for other people is not a bad thing. People paid for the device, they should be able to use it however they wish.

[-] Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

I'd be more worried about every company trying to force their users into using their own store to access their apps.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Simp harder for daddy

[-] MrNobody@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

Don't you think app developers should have the freedom of choice for app stores? Android has multiple places to get apps, lots of FOSS apps aren't on play store, and likely aren't on iOS at all. Having the option for 3rd party store gives not just users, but developers too, an option and access to more apps/users that wouldn't otherwise be available. You want safe secure apps, that's all good.
You mentioned that an app might move away from the app store to a 3rd party store, if you already use and trust that developer's product how will having to get it from a different location change that?
Now, not to sound too harsh, but why your convenience of not having to go get another store more important than a devs ability to host their product in a different location?

[-] muh_entitlement@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

All these corporations just getting greedy. There will be a pirated app store and I will be the first to endorse it!!

[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yep right

Here's 10 malware for iOS that don't involve using a store

https://macpaw.com/amp/how-to/most-common-iphone-viruses

And then an article about malware from iOS store - for now hoping it's not click bait, I'll read it after work

https://lifehacker.com/great-now-the-apple-app-store-has-malware-too-1849386738

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I don't think anyone would be forcing you to use a different app store.

This would just make the option available for those who want to.

[-] seedd@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

The only third party store that should be allowed is fdroid (or fios ig), everything else that is sideloaded is either malware or pirated apps

[-] halva@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 9 months ago
[-] poopkins@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

~~This community encourages such incredible depth and discourse. Keep it up, folks!~~

Edit: whoops, posted this on the wrong community. Yay, piracy!

[-] muh_entitlement@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

You don't like free stuff? Piracy is the only way. Ahoy!! 🏴‍☠️🦜

[-] seedd@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Ofc i do, i won't have jackshit in my jellyfin without it. But apps, nah..cracked apps are full of shit

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

Yea, because with cydia zebra and sileo, you can only install malware /s

[-] seedd@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

thats not what i meant, i meant that it just opens the door for malware. And even with android, how many people actually install apks? Not many, bcs everything is there on the play store.

[-] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[-] seedd@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

You just have to open the apk and click install, how is thay hard?

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