Germany knows a thing or two about genocide so it's surprising they're not seeing it in Gaza.
Germany is so ashamed of its history that no Israel atrocity can change that.
They're not ashamed. Germans still hate Jews. The initial plan Hitler had was to move all the Jews to Madagascar.
The Madagascar Plan was a plan proposed by the Nazi German government to forcibly relocate the Jewish population of Europe to the island of Madagascar. Franz Rademacher proposed the idea in June 1940
The Zionist thing is an easy excuse to make the Palestinians responsible for German crimes. Germany doesn't want israelis moving back.
The second reason Germany is simping this hard is that Germany wants Intel, which is an israeli company, to build more chip factories there. Thus they have to bow their heads to Zionists. Buy AMD kids.
Intel was founded by Americans in America and is, to this day, american.
Lmao sure. Keep dreaming. Intel is a Zionist entity.
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Fuck.
Might be a good idea to buy AMD guys.
This comment is an absolute clusterfuck
The idea of setting up Israel as a state was so that they could send the Jewish people there because it was thought that they would never be able to integrate into European society, iirc.
Buy AMD kids.
Oh, AMD sells kids now?
I hope so. I’m not paying double the price for raytraced kids
Buddy a couple factories out of dozens around the world does not make them Israeli.
Indeed they do and they acknowledge their history, and why this doesn't apply:
In light of German history and the crimes against humanity of the Shoah, the German government is particularly committed to the (UN) Genocide Convention," signed in 1948 in the wake of the Holocaust, Hebestreit said.
He said the Convention marked a "central instrument" under international law to prevent another Holocaust.
For this reason, he said, "we stand firmly against a political instrumentalisation" of the Convention.
Hebestreit acknowledged diverging views in the international community on Israel's military operation in Gaza.
"However the German government decisively and expressly rejects the accusation of genocide brought against Israel before the International Court of Justice," he said. "The accusation has no basis in fact."
Seems like they got it right.
They didn't actually present any argument that this isn't a genocide, nor did they even try to address anything the South African delegation have presented. This is state speech for "nuh uh", so the only reason you could see that "they got it right" was if you just liked their conclusion.
I agree with their conclusion, yes. When both sides of the conflict that the genocide statutes were written to address say that this is not a genocide, I find that very compelling.
Nazi Germany's extermination camps are not the only genocides in history, nor does either entity have a special say in what a genocide is. Calling modern Germany the "side" of the Nazis is incredibly offensive, nor is Israel the "side" of the Jewish people. There are plenty of Jews around the world who have lost family in the Holocaust who very much do believe the term does apply.
Calling modern Germany the “side” of the Nazis is incredibly offensive
Well they consider themselves to be atoning for it to this day and accept responsibility, as per the quote above. If you've ever been to Germany they don't shy away from the connection or deny that the Nazis were German.
There are plenty of Jews around the world who have lost family in the Holocaust who very much do believe the term does apply.
A minority opinion, to be sure.
Citation would be nice on that last one.
Can't find any statistics of "Jews around the world who have lost family in the Holocaust" but only 22% of American Jews agree with that statement as of 2021.
So 22% before Israel blocked supplies and bombed 80% of Gaza into fine rubble. I wonder how that number looks now
If you find a source, please share it
Wow, that number is quite amazing. 22% of American Jews in 2021 thought that the 2023-24 military campaign is a genocide. So at least 22% of American Jews are time travelers!
It's unfortunate then that nazi parties are popular again now in Germany.
There are still a lot of old people in Germany who refuse to say anything negative about Israel.
They can never, ever take a position against Israel.
We can, we should and we must at this point.
Germany takes plenty of positions against Israel. You're confusing us with the US.
Western countries records of respecting human rights are nothing but performative theater. They are part of the same imperialist empire. of which they all benefit from.
It's exactly because they know a thing or two they're not willing to throw the term around willy-nilly
What's happening in Gaza right now isn't a genocide. It's awful, they are commiting warcrimes, but not a genocide.
Funnily enough, what's happening in the West Bank has better Chances of being classified as a Genocide. Yet all those "Experts" on the Internet never talk about that. They only see civilian houses blowing up, then they take the worst word they know, "genocide", and call it that.
Do you think Palestinians in Gaza will ever be able to return home, in the near or far future, without being killed under the excuse of "it's an evacuation zone, so they must be Hamas"?
And do you think the "evacuation zone" will ever stop expanding before it encompasses the entirety of Gaza?
Because I'm pretty sure forcefully displacing a people from their home and not allowing them to return qualifies as genocide.
I think they are calling them weak. I figured it would be but when you put it in comparison we are almost there but not quite to the same level
They learned nothing.
Spineless cucks should have abstained.
Fuck Hamas, but what is happening in Gaza is absolutely genocide. Trying to diplomatically meander around that is fucking pathetic.
... There's a Nazi joke in there somewhere.
But I'm not seeing it.
Cool. Fuck Germany.
Cool. Fuck you.
Once again, Germany looks away from a clear and blatant genocide. It's almost like they're known for that or something.
stop using the word genocide willy-nilly. You're essentially the Boy who cries Wolf.
What happens in Gaza is awful and there are definitely WarCrimes. But a Genocide is on a whole other Level.
Nope. It's a genocide under the UN definition which is the agreed international definition.
Under the UN Definition you need to prove that there is an Intent.
Fo on, Prove it then.
Just check the ruling party's public comments. They're more than willing to admit to it.
Go read a single damn book about genocide and then say that again. Go read South Africa's 84 pages. And then Go fuck yourself.
Never stopped sucking Zionist balls since the end of WWII.
Thank skies I haven't considered Germany as a destination country.
A Stop the genocide in Gaza graffiti was sprayed onto my university a few days ago (Germany I should mention). Uni tried to cover it up but it's currently on display at the busiest part of the campus and I predict it will stay there for a while
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