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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by muddybulldog@mylemmy.win to c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world

There's some misinformation floating around regarding Lemmy not having a karma system. While many have discovered otherwise, this is for those who may not have.

While it's not exposed in the Lemmy default user interface, Lemmy does have a fully functional karma system and it is visible in third party clients such as WefWef and Memmy.

Do with that what you will.

https://join-lemmy.org/api/interfaces/PersonAggregates.html

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 222 points 1 year ago

I think I will do nothing with that information.

[-] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 38 points 1 year ago
[-] 70ms@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 year ago

Upvoted for visibility! 🤪

You gained so much karma with that statement

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Can't wait to spend it on food and other essential goods!

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[-] Poob@lemmy.ca 87 points 1 year ago

Upvotes are useful for determining what people like and dislike so you can sort posts and comments

Account karma is for narcissists to masturbate about how loved they are

[-] Wats0ns@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Hey I'm already tracking my karma, no need to convince me !

[-] veroxii@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Don't threaten me with a good time!

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[-] gdbjr@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago

Welcome to Lemmy where everything is made up and the Karma doesn’t matter.

[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I hate it. Promotes gamesmanship and super douches like Gallowboob.

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Honestly is it even worth anything? Even on reddit I didn't really pay attention to how much karma a user had, maybe when I wanted to check if it was a bot or something.

[-] Copernican@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

When it comes to gauging advice, or doing something like buying or trading used goods it was helpful as a proxy for trustworthiness. Older accounts with good karma are a lot less sketchy than brand new accounts.

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[-] Source@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago

Honestly should be removed

[-] Atemu@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think there is a way to remove that. "Karma" is just the sum of upvotes on all of a users' posts/comments and that info is always accessible.

We could make the decision to not show that value in the front-ends of course but you'll likely have very different opinions on that and some front-ends will inevitably show karma.

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[-] Someology@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Well, I completely ignored karma on Reddit for around a decade, until a friend one day pointed my huge karma out to me in a very enthusiastic way. I believe I will also ignore it here.

[-] zsnell02@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Mine (on both 3rd party apps) are very inaccurate lol. I have a post with over 2k and it says my karma is 300

[-] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[-] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

I know I'm in the minority here, but I think the karma system has value and I'd like to see us keep it. I did time as a moderator on a fairly busy subreddit, and requiring accounts to be >30 days old and have >100 or so karma saved us a lot of work. E.g., it made ban evasion a little harder to do, and reduced brigading.

It also helped to keep folks fairly civil and promoted considering perspective when posting, which I think is valuable.

With that said, I'd LOVE to allow communities to disable down votes... it's a missing feature in reddit, and if you are trying to promote discussion of a divisive topic, or to actively suppress an echo chamber, I think down votes are counter productive.

[-] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago

requiring accounts to be >30 days old and have >100 or so karma saved us a lot of work. E.g., it made ban evasion a little harder to do, and reduced brigading.

Counter-point: Requirements such as these were the reason repost/copy-paste bots were getting so rampant on Reddit.

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[-] teacosts@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

One thing I love about the fediverse is I dont have to give a fuck about karma

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[-] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 30 points 1 year ago

Are you telling me I wasted my time manually tallying up my karma with calculator to track my karma-whoring activity?

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[-] peterpan520@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~But you have to consider the difference to Reddit's karma system. If you have a high-karma account on Reddit, your comment or post trends much higher. That's not the case with Lemmy, as far as I know.~~

Apparently, I was mistaken. Sorry.

[-] Hubi@feddit.de 33 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure that's not true. I had 320k+ Karma on reddit when the admins banned me for participating in the protests and I regularly posted things that got very few upvotes.

[-] substill@ttrpg.network 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah that’s definitely not the case. Karma is used to determine how frequently a user can post or comment, so that bot created accounts are limited from instantly flooding a subreddit or comment thread. It isn’t visibility or automatic upvotes.

[-] Fingerthief@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

That isn’t a thing, I dislike Reddit as well but we shouldn’t start making false statements about them.

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[-] Username02@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Karma is about which faction will turn hostile to you.

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[-] eee@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

I used to create a new account on reddit every few years to "reset" my Internet presence.

Didn't give a shit about karma, still don't.

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[-] ogg42@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Let's not make Lemmy Reddit, or at least can we label this feature Anti-Karma?

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[-] Lemmylefty@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

With Reddit, though, some subreddits required a minimum amount of karma to post, whereas if you have access to an instance you can post freely.

So it’s more a user rating of “this was good/how have you survived until this point” than a gatekeeping device: you, as a poster, can freely ignore your points and the points of others if you don’t care.

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[-] lunaticneko@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

In Lemmy, karma is not important.

Alignment, however, is paramount.

Mine seems to be chaotic ADHD asshole. Wait, is this even a proper alignment?!

[-] Schooner@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure this is just the apps adding up all the upvotes/downvotes you receive and not an actual Lemmy feature.

[-] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 21 points 1 year ago

It's right in the API: https://join-lemmy.org/api/interfaces/PersonAggregates.html

Returns: comment_count, comment_score, id, person_id, post_count, post_score

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think I am the only one that finds karma useful. Albeit my experience is based on Reddit, but I found it handy to check out who are the serial reposters that have huge submission karma and very low comment karma. My RES filter was getting..... large.

Lemmy? I dunno. I'm still pretty new here.

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[-] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Oh no. Anyway, karma wasn't the worst thing about reddit so it should be fine, I hope...

[-] Ignacio@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does that karma allow me to buy NFTs, then resell them for double the price I paid, then create bots to karma farming, be called a karma whore by jealous people, grow my evil power, become the CEO of Lemmy, put ads, charge for the API so my official app is the only one allowed to work and talk to shareholders? If it doesn't allow me to do that, then there's no karma 😝

[-] juansero29@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I'm a karma whore, and I love this

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[-] Encode1307@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

My points have reset a couple times over the last couple weeks, so they don't mean much.

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[-] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

My "karma" got reset a few days ago. Lol.

Honestly makes no diff. But it's a little nice to see. Didn't really change my behavior. I'm just happy to be here and I am engaging more than I ever did on Reddit.

[-] HeavyRust@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago
[-] gnarly@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I know my comic praising lemmy for no karma added to the confusion on this but I do appreciate that lemmy.world does not feature the server karma on profiles for reasons already said in the comments. Thanks for clarifying.

[-] Krafting@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I really like this system as a bonus points, a thing you gain from being an active member, I know it can be abused and bring karma-whore, but I really hope they will not remove it in the future.

[-] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 9 points 1 year ago

Agreed. I'm not immune to the rush of seeing a post take off as a bonus reward for contributing. I also find it helpful in communties that deal in factual information as a loose system of trustworthiness.

[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 9 points 1 year ago

Karma on Lemmy has zero value, because you can easily manipulate the numbers.

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