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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Nassau County police on Thursday have responded to a bomb threat at the home of Judge Arthur Engoron, the judge presiding over former President Donald Trump’s civil fraud case, a source with direct knowledge of the situation told NBC News.

The threat comes hours before closing arguments in the trial are scheduled to begin, with those arguments still expected to proceed.

A bomb squad was called to Engoron’s home and was investigating Thursday morning; it is unclear whether Engoron was home at the time.

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[-] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's only a matter of time before one of these fucks actually does something.

Edit: They've already done plenty... I don't know why I worded my original comment like that. I guess I'm just waiting for someone to do something that even the most head-in-the-sand people can't ignore, as if J6 wasn't enough.

[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago

They already have been. For years. Shooting up churches, destroying power grid infrastructure, etc.

It's just their violence largely affects brown people and that doesn't fly in the media.

[-] Dhar@lemmy.ca 30 points 11 months ago

And then the DOJ will be shocked Pikachu face.

[-] aew360@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

As if the DOJ could be proactive without Congressional Republicans fanning the flames of an insurrection of their own. Did you see them grill Merrick Garland?

[-] Dhar@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

At this point I think it's easier to enumerate the ways in which we're NOT fucked.

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 5 points 11 months ago

Ok, I'll start: Only SOME of the rivers are on fire SOME of the time..

[-] Dhar@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

"I'm not dead...yet"

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

What makes you think they haven't? Remember 1/6? The MAGAbomber? Proud Boys picking fights in the streets? Hundreds of domestic terrorism events?

[-] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Anyone remember Kyle Rittenhouse? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[-] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

And Paul Pelosi... I don't know why I worded it like that. They've done plenty. 😔

[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 46 points 11 months ago

A great example of how his followers just want to blow up and maim anything and everything that gets in their way..

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

I wonder what's going to happen when the swath of impeachments going on fails.

[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 14 points 11 months ago

They have no intention of following through on any of them, it's all theater for the base to distract from Trump's legal troubles. What the GOP do when their anti-Christ is sentenced should be interesting, do they just drop and distance from him, or do they choose a "disciple" to carry on his evil deeds and speak for him?

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

They have no intention of following through on any of them, ...

That is probably true, but it's elementary for them to say, "The rADiCaL LEfT has once again prevented us from rightfully removing these evil and corrupt officials from power!" (wink, wink, nudge, nudge, swatting and bomb threats at least)

[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 1 points 11 months ago

It's all they got, they have absolutely no platform that any of them can agree upon anymore. It's divide the country and confuse the base so they don't catch on, and then grift like it might all end when Trump is convicted.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

He's not getting sentenced for this, it's a civil trial to assess damages. His business presence in NY will get sold off to pay the debt, and he'll have to resort to grifting his political contributors to keep up his lifestyle.

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[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Something something mad about Portland government property when my entertainment news tells me to be

[-] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

All of those judges, attorneys and critics might end up in jail when big orange comes into power again. You just have to listen to his „Project 2025“ agenda.

And nobody shall say they didn’t know what they were electing…

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago

The question is whether their fear of the next week overrides their fear of next year.

Lots of judges seem to be trying really hard to dance around actually doing their jobs (Engoron is not one of them).

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

Lots of judges seem to be trying really hard to dance around actually doing their jobs

This is largely because you can only appeal a verdict based on mistrial. You need to be able to show the appellate courts that your original trial was unfair in some way. If the appellate court rules that your trial was fair, then the verdict stands and your appeal is tossed.

Judges are bending over backwards to be patient with him, because they don’t want to give him any way to weasel out of it on appeal. Essentially, if they arrive at a guilty verdict, they don’t want him to be able to claim that the court was biased against him. When the appeals court goes back and looks at the trial, all they’ll see is the judge being patient with him at every single step. So his complaint against the judge won’t hold any water. These judges are playing the long game, by putting up with his shenanigans in their court they ensure he can’t try them anywhere else. Basically, they want their verdict to be as ironclad as possible, so he has no hope of getting out of it by crying to the judge’s superiors.

[-] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Well, some judges are sympathetic, and owe their careers to people who want Conservative Ideology, Trump or not, conserved. The Federalist Society.

They're called "Conservatives" for a reason. They don't want anything to change.

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[-] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago
[-] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

My keyboard betrayed me.

[-] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

The next Repubofascist President will pardon them all.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 34 points 11 months ago

This doesn't happen after a coup, does it?

I've never lived in a place where the people in power took over in a coup. But, when I read about them, I never hear of the people who live there sending bomb threats to judges who are siding with the perpetrators of the coup. When a group takes power in a coup, they're normally ruthless, they kill people who threaten them, and they make it clear that dissent won't be tolerated.

So, these MAGA / Q-Anon types believe that Biden took power in a coup by stealing the election. But, they also believe that it was such a soft coup that they didn't bother to jail or kill Trump. It was such a gentle coup that the only "political prisoners" are the people who stormed the capitol, and then only after long investigations and public trials. It's such a kind coup that they are happy to allow demonstrations, TV networks that oppose them, discussions on the Internet that they can't control. These people also think that they can get away with sending bomb threats because the regime that took power in the coup is even softer on crime than the typical government, which would arrest people who sent bomb threats.

How do you send a bomb threat to a judge without thinking are we the baddies? At some point you have to stop and think: our side is doing X, their side is doing Y.

"our side" "their side"
Sacking the capitol Stealing an election
Sending bomb threats to judges Killing babies
Abusing presidential power on day one as retribution against enemies, but only for one day Charging Trump in several open criminal and civil trials
Paraphrasing Hitler Charging and trying people who rioted on Jan 6th in normal, open criminal trials
... ...

Like, how do you make a list like that and never once consider whether your side might be the baddies?

[-] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

dude they know they are the bad guys they literally go to militia meetings and went to jan 6 lmao /[ssss

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

They do those things because they think they're the good guys fighting "the deep state" or something.

[-] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is the product of the opportunistic and amoral abusing The First Amendment to influence the greedy, selfish, and hateful to act against their own self interest to preserve the status quo of the former. This is literally The Jerry Springer Congress. It's intentional. They know that a lot of people love this trashy high school mean girl bullshit. All of the new Right Wing Grifters know this, and bank on it.

Being mildly autistic, and maybe from learning to think critically from neglect and abuse in my childhood, causing me to distrust authority, I've never the understood the need of some people to belong to a tribe, and the need to have an authority figure to make them feel safe, and tell them what to think and do. I don't get it. But apparently, half of the population does. Fascists understand this, and use it.

This country is in big trouble. Half of the voters seem to want a King. Capital K. They want to be ruled. By an overgrown child who is an entitled, spoiled, emotionally stunted narcissist who is incapable of empathy, compassion or kindness. Who is clearly suffering from early stage dementia, or Alzheimer's. Which his father died of. Who literally argued that he could have his rivals in a democratic election murdered, and be immune from criminal charges.

That should scare the shit out of everyone not stupid.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

This country is in big trouble. Half of the voters seem to want a King. Capital K.

Like Stephen King? Great. I wouldn't want a monarch, but if it's a capital-k King, that's fine.

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[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Nothing screams innocent more than making bomb threats.

[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Oh they are guilty and they know their Führer is too. They are just not familiar with getting punished.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

When are we going to designate MAGA Republicans as the terrorists they are?

[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

I think it's a disservice to good, hardworking Americans to limit it at MAGA Republicans and not all conservatives.

[-] themadcodger@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

But that might hurt the feelings of the sacred demographic: old white men!

[-] norbert@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

Nah they said they were all domestic terrorists at CPAC 2022. No reason not to take them at their word.

They're domestic terrorists seeking to install theocratic rule in the U.S. in complete disregard of democracy. They should be dragged into the street and dealt with like the fundamentalists and terrorists they are.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

He’s just trying to delay the decision because he knows he’s guilty.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I almost want to see what these bozos would come up with if they tried to build a bomb. Not exactly the best and brightest America has to offer so I'd expect some duds and premature detonations from "Jim-Bob's Truck Nuts and IED Emporium".

Timothy McVeigh seems to have proven that far right whackos are very capable of building a good bomb. Be careful what you wish for.

[-] voltaa@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Funny (but not funny, as it was a tragedy) that you should bring up the OKC bombings as an example of building a good bomb. McVeigh's bomb didn't work properly and failed to fully high order, it was just so much ANFO that it didn't even matter.

I didn't know that, but it clearly worked well enough. 😬

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[-] ApostleO@startrek.website 10 points 11 months ago

Having grown up in a redneck community, I'm quite confident Trump supporters can at least make a functional pipe bomb.

[-] feralbobcat@startrek.website 7 points 11 months ago

Agreed. My dad was a maga guy and a prepper. He knew the process to make plastic explosives and pipe bombs. He even had experience making functional gun powder that he had stashed away in the basement. The crazies shouldn't be discounted as harmless

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's not a question if it's functional. It's more if it'd prove itself functional at their garage.

[-] voltaa@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

They could very likely come up with something very functional, making IEDs, and even cooking your own explosive fillers is exceptionally easy, you really only need a very basic understanding of chemistry and circuitry (like grade 9 or 10 level). If extremists hiding in caves in Afghanistan could make consistent and effective devices with HME, then Joe Redneck with Internet access and over the counter access to Ammonium Nitrate Aluminum (Tannerite, which is legal in most states and often sold at gun stores) can probably do it too.

[-] GluWu@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Did everyone forget they did make two PBs for the insurrection, both of which failed. And the FBI is still just sitting around playing with their dicks saying "boy gosh we sure DO want to find that person".

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

both of which failed

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Most of the people at J6 had college degrees.

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[-] bedrooms@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

r/conservative not caring, yet gaslighting with BLM name calling these days. They have no shame.

[-] eighthourlunch@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

I'd wager over half that sub is posting from Moscow.

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