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[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

This isn't a great argument. There is so much open undeveloped space in the US that could be used to house people. This interchange isn't taking space away from anyone.

[-] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago

This isn't a great argument. A majority of highway interchanges in city limits have actually displaced people.

[-] IHateReddit@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago

this interchange is in the city of Houston. of course it's taking space away.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Those giant empty fields right below it are even larger...

[-] poopkins@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Gee, I wonder why people don't want to live next to a highway interchange.

[-] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 8 months ago

And then deal with all the car noise pollution? No thanks.

[-] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

What do you propose they do with that space? Adding literally any way to access it necessarily interferes with the roads around it and makes the entire project pointless.

Even ignoring that obvious problem, you can't use it for housing since there's nothing there and it's surrounded by high-speed traffic. Can't build shops or other amenities there since nobody stops and it's surrounded by high-speed traffic. You definitely can't put livestock there.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

That wasn't the argument I was responding to. The initial argument was that the interchange was taking away space that could be used to house people. Simply replacing the interchange with housing would cause even larger problems than developing the empty land around it.

[-] merde@sh.itjust.works 30 points 8 months ago

This interchange isn't taking space away from anyone.

depends on how myopic is your definition of "anyone" is

"space" isn't for humans only. roads are taking monstrous amounts of space

[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 18 points 8 months ago

Go tell that to the people displaced by Robert Moses.

[-] Jode@midwest.social 3 points 8 months ago
[-] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 months ago

It's not just about how much space, but where that space is.

[-] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 8 months ago

You compare a city center with an interchange close to the city limit. You will see stuff like that in Europe too, especially motorways that separate cities from their sprawling neighbors. Houston has interchanges that look way more problematic.

[-] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Aren't there any hobos under there?

[-] EarWorm@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

The really fun bit is that the US doesn't need more room to house people. There are more vacant apartments than there are homeless people as is, but nobody can pay the rents.

[-] Antitoxic9087@slrpnk.net 6 points 8 months ago

Build stack interchange only in cities skylines, not in real world

[-] Chev@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Comparing apples to pears. Nice.

[-] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago

How so? It's showing that with all that space the interchange is taking up you can house 30000+ people.

[-] Chev@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

There are enough highway interchanges in Italy too.

Not every ground that is suitable for streets, is also suitable for living.

The cost between those both are not comparable.

Usage of land is (at least in Italy) carefully determined to fulfill societies needs. Most people prefer to live somewhere, where infrastrcture already exists instead of building up a ghost town without anything nearby.

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