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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 155 points 10 months ago

If I didn't have ethics, I could con so many religious people...

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 84 points 10 months ago

I think about this sometimes I could go to school and build a career for myself, or I could make way twice the money in half the time doing shit like this.

Sometimes I hate that I have a sense of guilt. Life would be so much easier if I were a psychopath

[-] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

But psychopaths never feel love

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They either completely lack or struggle with recognizing emotional empathy.

[-] stoneparchment@possumpat.io 12 points 10 months ago

I don't think that's true? They have a dysfunctional guilt/shame system but they still have other feelings, right?

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[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

If it makes you feel any better, it's probably hard to figure out when to get out. You'll always feel like you can do just one more because the last one worked out so well, but each time you cash in, more people will see the truth and might want in on it until you find yourself in a situation where you can't stop even if you wanted to because then the others who you are propping up will turn on you.

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

So what if they turn on you? Once you're rich just admit it's a scam and walk away. The believers will continue on.

Jehovah's Witnesses predicted the end of the world in 1914. When that didn't happen they lost members but came back quickly enough. Then they predicted it for 1975. Same thing happened, and now they have more members than ever.

[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 months ago

There were likely some Mormons and definitely some fellow Freemasons in the angry mob that killed Joseph Smith. He was in way too deep to just walk away, even if his brand of narcissism would have allowed him to contemplate that.

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[-] Talaraine@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Oddly specific haha

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

It is completely ethical to remove the funding power from those who would cause others to suffer.

Just sayin, you have options.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago

Yeah, but you're not really conning the higher-ups, you're conning the grannies who are going to church and giving away their social security money. And they really don't deserve to be conned even if it would be easy to con them.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

They're going to be conned. Might as well be by someone who can help them with that money.

[-] stranger@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago
[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Argumentum ad pessimism, actually

[-] Aremel@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Can you explain what that means, and what the other guy said please?

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

He called me an idiot. I said no, I'm a pessimist

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[-] Blackout@kbin.social 20 points 10 months ago

If that is unethical then all of religion is unethical hey wait a second...

[-] Thrashy@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I long ago came to the conclusion that a slice of the American Dream is still out there to be had, as long as you don't mind cutting it out of a bunch of suckers and rubes. Alas, my petty sense of morality is stopping me from joining the ranks of the wealthy elite, but at least I can sleep at night knowing my lifestyle isn't directly financed by the misery of people I made a conscious choice to hurt.

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[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 93 points 10 months ago

I knew a kid who'd go door to door in neighborhoods requesting donations for the poor.

In his mind he was being honest because he was "the poor"

[-] undercrust@lemmy.ca 36 points 10 months ago

To be fair, this was the pre-existing model for GoFundMe. That kid could've been a millionaire if he dreamed bigger.

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

can i start a gofundme just asking for money for no reason and see if anyone gives it to me

[-] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Reminds me of the Human Fund and its slogan "money for people".

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

Ah the classic Empty Pocket Society

[-] Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So you accidentally learned the greatest lesson the church has to offer. Salvation for a profit.

[-] ThatFembyWho 51 points 10 months ago

Honestly. I think that's what many of the nutjob protestors and "commentators" do. Why work a real job when you can be paid by suckers to jetset around the country/world spouting controversial views.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

That's basically what Fred Phelps and crew did.

[-] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 38 points 10 months ago

Since it’s easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter heaven, relieving said rich man of their excess health is actually a kindness. Therefore this is an ethical life pro tip.

[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 35 points 10 months ago

While everyone's telling their stories. In middle school. My friend had a game shark book with game shark codes and he would write them all out and then sell them to kids that didn't have a game shark.

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Game shark, my god you brought me back. Shit, now you got me thinking about Game Genie too.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 4 points 10 months ago

Codebreaker for PS2 was my daily use cheat disc back then lol

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[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

I did something similar when I was like 11. Went on a "canned food drive" around the neighborhood because it was summer and I was hungry.

To be fair, my family was poor and used services that actual drives would benefit, so I just cut out the middle man.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 31 points 10 months ago

Full circle since I Rember reading that blink got started telling schools they wanted to play concerts in gymnasiums to spread a positive Christian message.

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[-] iesou@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago

When I needed a job I went to church and asked them to pay that a job would come my way. Had 3 offers before I left

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 10 months ago

Is there actually any way literal grown adults fell for this

[-] MySwellMojo@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

Why are their pastors driving lambos

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[-] QTpi@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

Yes! I went to an evangelical church run private school. They had the brilliant idea to send good "strong Christian" students to raves and parties to narc on their classmates that attended said raves and parties. I wish I was making that up.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Depends on the town. Some of the ones in the Bible Belt? Absolutely possible. In others it's completely possible they knew the kids were lying and decided it was fun to play along and get them to a concert.

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[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 months ago

So much circle-jerking in this comments. This person is literally stealing but its fine if its from the "bad guys".

[-] TheLoneMinon@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago

They're grifting grifters. I see no problem.

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

How are people donating their own money grifters?

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[-] smeg@feddit.uk 9 points 10 months ago

This community isn't called LemmySeriousDiscussionPost

[-] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

ChaoticGood

[-] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 4 points 10 months ago

Well considering that this is 100% fake bullshit, it's probably not even worth asking that question.

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Image Transcription: Twitter Post


M. Lockwood Porter, @mlockwoodporter

My best friend and I wanted to go to a Blink 182 concert in high school but couldn't afford tickets, so we told everyone in our extremely Baptist Oklahoma town that God called us to spread the gospel at an evil secular concert but we needed donations to get in. We turned a profit

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