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[-] Adi2121@lemmy.ml 73 points 8 months ago

The general reaction to this post being "Who's Matpat?" is super interesting to me. And the comments saying that Tom Scott and Matpat aren't old are also interesting since they follow the trend in Lemmy of the average age being a lot older than any other social network. I'm Gen Z and primarily consume content via a very Zoomer-heavy platform, YouTube, and the only other social network I have is Lemmy, which I'd say is very millennial-dominated. Which is why I stayed on Lemmy when I first got on here in June, since I liked the difference in opinion on the same topics on Lemmy and YouTube. Nothing related to the post, just something I've noticed for a while but never shared.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 28 points 8 months ago

I feel like people not knowing this Matpat person may also just be a case of the channel being called "The Game Theorists".

I have seen videos of that channel suggested, but never clicked on any, because it looked like typical content mill stuff to me. If you don't watch any videos, you'll only ever read "The Game Theorists"...

[-] Caboose12000@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

as a fellow zoomer I can verify that Lemmy is unique in that you and me as zoomers seem to be a minority here

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This place is a lot like what the older Internet from the 80s and 90s was like, just a bunch of disjointed seperate individually run forums and communities run by passionate individuals in a world of digital anarchy where you can find something new every day. One minute you're downloading guitar tabs handwritten by some random metal fan, to reading about some guy named Steve's tribute website to his pet dog the next.

I think that's what draws us in and keeps us here for the older folks.

[-] SimplyATable@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Same here, it's a lot more chill of a place at least

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

I've got accounts older than my niece and she'll be 16 in a month.

[-] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I remember YouTube being millennial dominated. I wonder if it's just a phase before realizing you're throwing comments into the void and by being a central social site that still allows anonymity, it just invokes trolls - like xitter.

Wait till you find out YouTube isn't that old and came about because some horny dudes couldn't find the video of Janet Jackson's boob. I mean, 18 is ancient for the internet and other tech, but I'd say it goes beyond just being a website with its social prevalence.

[-] MBM@lemmings.world 7 points 8 months ago

Honestly I just consider "old internet" to be before I was even born

[-] Maven@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago

To be fair, I didn't know his handle was MatPat, because I only knew about him as "the Game Theory guy I stopped watching almost ten years ago". If you told me Game Theory was quitting the internet , I would know who you meant.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 59 points 8 months ago

The public internet has been around about three times longer than what you're calling "old".

Geocities, Angelfire, and dialup modems are the "old" internet.

[-] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 15 points 8 months ago

BBS's would like a word

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

No kidding. Wardialing with my C64 and a 300 baud modem was the shit in the mid 80s.

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[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I used ftp, Archie, and gopher in college. I even had a paper book called “The Internet Yellow Pages” before search engines were a thing.

[-] Globulart@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I miss IRC

[-] jawa21@startrek.website 6 points 8 months ago

IRC is still very much around.

[-] Globulart@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Not in the way it used to be though. I guess what I really miss is finding matches for counterstrike and stuff using IRC, it felt properly community based instead of designed to extract maximum money.

[-] Computerchairgeneral@kbin.social 45 points 8 months ago

Seeing MatPat being called the old internet is...something all right. Almost as disorienting as seeing all the "Who?" reactions to the news. I guess it isn't that surprising given how huge Youtube is. I'm sure there are plenty of giant channels I've never heard of. That being said I'm curious to see if any more "old-school" youtubers decide to retire over the next year.

[-] ZWho63@lemmy.ml 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

For those of y'all who don't know: MatPat has announced that he will be stepping down from The Game Theorists to focus on himself and his family; Tom Scott has gone on indefinite hiatus for similar reasons.

I believe this heralds a new era of the internet, where 'old' creators are not as influential as the 'new' crop springing up, given the rise of Tiktok and the general direction of social media as a whole.

[-] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 17 points 8 months ago

This seems like a big change only because YouTube/content creators are such a new phenomenon. Makes sense to change tracks after doing the same thing for a while. Or retire if you get filthy rich. It's a natural cycle, only this time in a new environment.

Tom Scott has been doing the same thing for 10 years. Hell I can barely do the same job for 2 years without getting bored out of my mind.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

It's kinda like tv shows. Doing the same one dash in and out is exhausting.

[-] Zellith@kbin.social 10 points 8 months ago

The Game Theorists

Who? I feel like my algo has me under a rock.

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago

You are not alone

[-] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 5 points 8 months ago

In other words, millennial media tired, zoomer media bussin'.

[-] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 months ago

I don't think it's got much to do with new types of content being successful. If anything, those guys have just been doing this for so long that they definitely should take a loooong break, at least.

[-] ZWho63@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Tom Scott and Matpat didn't talk about breaks; they're closing up shop for good in some way: MatPat has said he's handing over creative control of the Theorist channels and assuming a more casual admin role to spend more time with his kid. Tom Scott said that he set a limit for 10 years on his main channel; he may come back to it, but it doesn't seem likely. Others are also quitting, such as Moo from the Vanoss Crew.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

Tom didn't say limit, he said goal. He said that after a break, he will probably upload videos to his main channel from time to time, but that when he does come back it won't be at his current schedule or with his current format.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

I can't wait for him to come back in a decade only for his usual demographic to not be receptive at all to his shit because they're all communists.

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 26 points 8 months ago

This is how I find out matpat is retiring?!

[-] EightLeggedFreak@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Right?!

[-] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 4 points 8 months ago

Likewise! Figured the post was wrong and they were referring to when he sold Game Theorists, but nope! https://youtu.be/8R1_TqU68yo?feature=shared

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 22 points 8 months ago

Meanwhile the Angry Video Game Nerd won't retire when he really should.

[-] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago

Why is that? Haven't watched him in a while.

[-] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 25 points 8 months ago

If the 4 hour long hbomberguy video is to be believed, the Angry Video Game Nerd channel (?) got bought by a company that turned it into something of a content mill. And there's some plagiarism involved.

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[-] ZWho63@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago

From what I've heard on the grapevine (I also don't watch his stuff), his channel really declined in quality past 2019, and it just hasn't been the same.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 7 points 8 months ago

He signed up with one of those media management companies to help him promote and produce content. He mostly did it because he wanted to spend more time with his family, because he's not really a gamer and has been running out of games he played as a kid, and because he's kind of inept, to be honest. He made a behind the scenes video that showed just how ramshackle his workflow is.

Anyway, once he got that company involved, they injected themselves into his videos as well as write and edit,nand everyone was wondering who "these fat slobs" were? They just appeared with no introduction. The quality of his content took a nosedive around this time. They also started adding all sorts of new content, like rental reviews and podcasts that all died out very quickly due to lack of interest (and because they were mostly centered around the slobs rather than James). You could also tell James wasn't very interested in any of it.

Anyway there's more to it, but that's the big stuff.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 20 points 8 months ago

The old Internet died when Reddit became "the front page of the Internet"

[-] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 17 points 8 months ago

No idea who Matpat is, but I will miss Tom Scott's stuff... also The Canipa Effect announced he is quitting YouTube after 10 years of producing content.

[-] semperverus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Who is this Tom Scott guy? I know MattPat as a legend but Tom is a literal-who to me.

[-] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

British guy who has gotten famous on YouTube.... Pretty all over the place, he made videos about linguistics, computer science, trains, hovercrafts, historical bouncing bridge, and sent garlic bread to space, played a 5000 year old board game, earthquake testing machines, a float-through McDonald's, Shakespeare, giant centrifuge, and more.

[-] spudwart@spudwart.com 16 points 8 months ago

The past few months to a year or so we’ve seen a total restructure of the internet. Reddit, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube have been actively scaring away their user bases.

It’s resulting in a split and divided internet. Like the days of old. Fediverse ActivityPub integration is the only thing that can undo that and revive these all-in-one style communications platforms.

I’m curious to see if it will be better or worse.

[-] ZWho63@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

I beg to differ. If there's one thing, even though I only got properly into the Internet around 2020, I have heard about how old social media was FAR better for the internet in general than stuff like Youtube and Twitter from people like Kurzgesagt; it allowed for more IRL-like social interaction through the segregation of communities into different 'cliques', kind of what Reddit and Lemmy are trying to capture. As a consequence, there was far less open and widespread drama, random hate and misinformation, unlike today.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 months ago

Nobody mentioning Jenna Marbles?!?!

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[-] rizoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 months ago

What happened to MatPat? I mean good riddence if he's gone but what happened?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 8 months ago

He just got tired of making money

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Matpat gone? Good fucking riddance. Fascist piece of shit.

[-] trucy 4 points 8 months ago

...what?

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago

Cries in AOL chat rooms

[-] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 1 points 8 months ago

Will be sad to see him go. I always loved the content as it was engaging, but ultimately of no consequence. When I watch anything to do with news or politics theres the risk of believing what the channel says only for it to be wrong and having your whole world view questioned. Game Theory was just… fun.

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