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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Jesus Christ. spot on in sentiment although I might shop around for a different format.

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Why? What's wrong with meowpoleon?

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

The scene in the painting is of Napoleon after he had definitely done something.

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[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So…. Is it ALL of Lemmy that’s bOtH siDeS now, or just certain parts of it. I’d like to know if it’s time to go back to Reddit.

[-] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Most lemmy instances are overwhelmingly leftist. If you're a leftist, democrats and republicans are to the right of you. So, it's less "both sides" and more "these two things are on the same side, which is to the right of me."

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

That makes a lot of sense. It’s deeply misguided and dangerous, but it makes sense.

[-] chocosoldier@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

"it's misguided and dangerous to recognize that the good cop and the bad cop are both cops and both want the same thing from you" bruh wat

[-] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

You are free to feel about that perspective however you like, but I personally (and I'd imagine there are others who feel the same) find the idea that you can't criticize a major political block if you also criticize its opposition to be itself misguided and dangerous.

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[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Just this tokenboomer guy posting stuff like this. I swear on this sub, any time it's a crazy "but muh both sides" post, it's this dude. Idk if a troll or a plant or a true believer. But it's just so aggressively something that it does stand out as odd.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Good to know. I’ll just block him.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I figured I’d wait to see what you’re about before I blocked your ass.

Got all I need to know. You’re going to cringe HARD when you grow up. Hope you still have friends when that happens, it it’s going to suck for you.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lol… I’m 62. I grew up and became a socialist.

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Til criticizing democrats is centrist

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Rofl… you think this kid is a democrat?

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

?? What kid are you talking about? Are you following your leader and going senile or something? Literally just saying how according to you and other liberals any sort of criticism of democrats is the same as saying both sides are exactly the same

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[-] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Liberal in what sense? Every country has slightly differing views on what "liberal" means.

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Those who claim to support minorities but act like minorities with no power even when they hold office.

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago
[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

They're making perfect the enemy of good and wiping away the good things that democrats do.

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Like holy shit imagine the amount of cognitive dissonance you must need to defend democrats not doing anything while in office xD

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

The point is that they do things but it would never be good enough for smug contrarians

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Oh yea they do so much, like forgive student loa--sorry I mean being the most pro union preside--I mean putting an end to genoci--I mean raising the minimum wa--wait wait I swear liberals don't just sit on their ass all day and collaborate with the GOP just gimme a sec

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

I saw a list of things Biden had done so far a year ago and I'm sure you'd shit all over it but it's not nothing

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I saw one too, I didn't read the whole thing but what I saw was 80% half-fulfilled promises and 20% just blatantly bad shit like supporting Israeli occupation of Palestine and expanding our oil industry. I'd almost rather he literally didn't do anything instead of just figuratively doing nothing

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I saw the same list. There was also a lot of duplicate entries, taking credit for the UAW's work, and giving Biden credit for Obama's accomplishments.

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[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is fascinating. Your comments come across as very combative and angry, while most responses read and feel calm, if defensive, and often trying to process a point with other facts or claims. I want to ask why you don't shift how you say things and support your arguments? I shit you not, most of us on the not-fascist side don't mind listening to alternative views and perspectives. They just need to be laid out in a way that also doesn't make us feel as if we need to go on the defensive. That's conversation. It'll get us all somewhere rather than drawing lines just to draw them.

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Honestly a lot of it is just that I have barely treated anger issues and I'm going through drug withdrawals. That's not an excuse to be an asshole on the internet, I'm just really struggling to not throw my phone against the wall, let alone write a measured reply to people who think I'm worse than a trump voter.

It doesn't help that whenever I bring up not really liking biden or being on the fence about voting for him, a bunch of smug liberals come out to tell me I'm a nazi for not voting for someone barely left of reagan who p much never opposes republicans or corporations. Even under good circumstances I don't take well to being called a Nazi, so I go on the offensive.

I'm also open to having my mind changed, and even voting for biden if it turns out he's better than I thought. It still seems like the logical choice to try and outlast culture war conservatives, though I'm really really starting to doubt whether democrats will ever stop going right, which makes voting for them feel like keeping the valve closed on a boiler that's about to explode. I'd love to hear how Dark Brandon is actually the best president since Jesus, but I haven't seen any indication he's better than any other right wing neolib

[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Thank you for the measured reply. Honestly, I know it takes effort, possibly doubly so for you. I've always been of the mind that if a policy or idea makes sense, if it's actually good, I'll support it. Whomever else supports it doesn't matter to me, or their reasons. Every day people make the right choices for the wrong reason, and I say let them make those choices. The issue for every single one of us, myself included, is that our perception of right and wrong is always marred by our experiences, our personal perspective.

An example of this is I will vote Biden just to make sure Trump doesn't end up in power again. I foresee a future under his dictatorship where many will suffer. Not because of him, because his base and the Republicans that bow to him, will become emboldened, and the people that know how, will manipulate him. As we've seen: What many of us would consider rash choices or unwise decisions are daily drivers for the Far Right. Yet many of them likely believe they're correct, some of them justified under unusual circumstances in their minds, others having essentially spent a life time only listening to specific rhetoric.

If any reader makes it this far, thank you. I dislike choosing sides and believe that the majority of us simply wish to live a good life. Even the ones who only wish for others to have a bad life are inversely projecting on their desires to have it better themselves. This divide in our culture is orchestrated and it'd be wonderful if we stopped dancing to the movement of the strings held by the weathly and influential.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago
[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It is truly pathetic not liking a president who's speeding us towards climate apocalypse 👍

Heck yea downvote me for opposing climate change, that totally doesn't make you a reactionary xD democrats could literally implement The Final Solution Pt 2 and you asskissers would still be voting blue no matter who

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Yah we get it you're smart and morally superior

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm glad you get it :3 I'd be more glad if you had a thought in your head other than "vote blue no matter who or you're a Nazi"

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Third party voters are idiots

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago

People who think voting for Democrats who roll over for Republicans to run rampant reforming our systems to partisan garbage so we'll be ruled by fascism in 8 years instead of 4 are idiots.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Great job standing up for pRiNcIpLeS! Trump agrees!

BoTh SiDeS

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[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Holy shit: the lack of your knowledge on how legislation works is astounding.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Centrists think doing nothing is the same as doing good.

[-] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Making perfect the enemy of good? What? You seeing the same thing?

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Democrats aren't good tho, they literally are the enemy of good. If they weren't evil they would do literally fucking anything about republicans and capitalists trying to take our rights and go full of fascist. But nope, it's always "waahhhh gop won't let us do anything :cccc" while letting republicans do literally anything they want

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago
[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So there's something that renders democrats completely incapable of ever stopping republicans from doing anything? Bc otherwise they're just liars and collaborators, no other explanation for trying to meet actual fascists in the middle and never doing fuck all to stop them

[-] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

It's always odd to see how the ones that know the least are the ones that are also the most confident... and insufferable

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Lemmy discovers presidents are not dictators

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Good point, there truly is no middle ground between doing nothing and being a dictator

[-] chocosoldier@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

ITT American liberals realize they're not leftists

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

~~Liberal~~ politicians

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