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New York Times managed this with eloquence.

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 161 points 2 years ago

Should also be one dot labeled “running for president”

[-] pozbo@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago

And another that is labeled "ate a bullet for breaking a secure barrier".

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 26 points 2 years ago

Imagine trying to martyr someone climbing through a broken window to threaten Congress while being warned by the Capitol Police that they will shoot them for doing it.

Regardless of whether some Congress critters deserve to be threatened, it's just the most privileged idiocy at best, especially to do it because the election didn't go the way you wanted.

[-] blady_blah@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

I get what you're saying, but imagine for a second that Trump managed to convince two states legislators to send in R electoral college votes and throw out the democratic election. Imagine how pissed you'd be. It's not that hard to imagine liberals storming the capital because of a stolen election.

I don't find the reverse scenario to be that far fetched. I get their misplaced anger. They were sold lies and those lies are enraging if you believe them. I don't think it's that hard to see the other side's viewpoint.

[-] Rice_Daddy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Ohh empathy! Always nice to see a dose of that!

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 11 points 2 years ago

If some dumbass lib climbed through a window at the head of mob chanting for the President's blood because they lost and were stupid enough to fall for easily disproven lie I also wouldn't blame the Secret Service for popping their head.

I'd say the exact same thing as I say about Babbit.

"Skill Issue."

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And everyone would've felt completely justified. These people think they're patriots, they mostly have various shades of untreated mental illnesses, it's not always their fault. Roger Stone and Steve Bannon will swing when the day comes.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

It’s probably already been said, but that event is White Privilege personified. The fact that you have so little interaction with law enforcement, not even any real negative interaction, and see all the white badasses in movies able to not get shot when they’re the Badass In The Right and the Dumb Cops Don’t Get It, so they let you by…

Think how many stories of minorities getting serious abuse, fear, or even just killed. Those stories become the infamous “Talk” some PoC parents have to have with their kids about interaction with the police. It’s generational. They’d know the chance of being shot is real.

But this white chick? Nah. Not gonna worry. The shock from everyone surrounding the issue is just further proof.

Not trying to make this a race thing, but just SMH at the whole wildly different worldview some people have.

[-] athos77@kbin.social 60 points 2 years ago

Also, they've only caught like half the people who were there.

[-] piskertariot@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Being there was perfectly legal. Attending a riot can be a lot of fun. In fact, if everyone is well behaved, it's encouraged and called peaceful protest.

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 35 points 2 years ago

Everyone that entered did so illegally. The ones that stayed outside were perfectly legal, and are not part of the group that is still wanted by law enforcement.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 2 years ago

Being there was not legal they were told to disperse when they failed to do so it then became a crime.

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I wish this graphic included a # and % for each category and color coded for misdemeanants and felons.

[-] Vode_An@lemmy.ml 42 points 2 years ago

Much like Jesus died for your sins, they were arrested for my amusement

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[-] CluckN@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago

Where’s the arrow pointing to the dead lady?

[-] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 years ago

What about the arrow pointing to the guy who accidentally tasered himself so hard in the balls that he died?

To be fair, that tickmark would be under terrorist.

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[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 33 points 2 years ago

The majority of them were given charges of breaking and entering into a capitol building or picketing in a capitol building. Not really sure what the graphic is trying to convey. It makes it seem like the majority plead guilty to inssurrection.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I agree - people were under-charged.

It's showing what it says on the label - outcomes of cases relating to Jan 6. People are overwhelmingly guilty. Where's the reference to insurrection?

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's not as clear as it should be, it means convicted people that are still fighting the charges

Add: I want to read the article of the story behind the two who were acquitted.

[-] litchralee@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Formally speaking, a conviction will attach once a defendant is found guilty by a trial court. Even while one or more appeals may be ongoing, it is accurate to describe the defendant as convicted. The status of a federal conviction sticks until such time the conviction is judicially overturned by a successful appeal, or when pardoned by the executive. But not clemency, which is a reduction in the penalty by the executive, but retains the conviction.

A person who has their conviction overturned or pardoned can no longer be accurately described as convicted. Although colloquially, it's unclear if "ex-convict" is an acceptable description or not.

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[-] litchralee@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Compared to the total number of federal defendants (using 2022 data), there appears to have been a slightly higher rate here of going to trial than defendants overall. Both sets demonstrate that when federal prosecutors bring cases, they don't tend to miss. Also demonstrated is how federal trials rarely result in an acquittal.

Does this mean judges and juries are biased against federal defendants? Likely not, since again: federal prosecutors tend to only pursue a case they know they can win. Knowing this, it must be a tough job for federal public defence lawyers but someone has to do it.

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[-] HowMany@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't see any orange dots. Where are the orange dots? We know there should be orange dots there. Not in the acquitted pile either. Where are the orange dots?

Where are the red dots? I don't see any red dots there. There were a lot of red dots involved with this. They still are.

Where are the red and orange dots?

[-] jackpot@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

someone explain the satire

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh, look what just dropped into my news feed:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/family-of-woman-shot-during-january-6-capitol-riot-sues-us-government-seeking-30-million/ar-AA1myxt8?ocid=U506DHP&pc=U506&cvid=25de3c1c41534add9b0503430090a01f&ei=27

Conservative activist group Judicial Watch said in a Friday press release its lawyers are representing Aaron Babbitt in the lawsuit. Babbitt is seeking $30 million.

...

But Babbitt said in the lawsuit his wife was ambushed when she was shot and multiple people yelled, "You just murdered her."

Jesus christ these people are fucking morons. "ambushed"? An officer yelling at you with a gun pointed at you is "ambushed"? Who gives a fuck what people yelled.

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[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If these people were on the left they wouldn't even be alive to get convicted. Instead, all but the most egregious get to walk off scot free.

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