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[-] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 90 points 1 year ago

Imagine having Windows installed in 2024. /s

[-] Sheeple@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most people are tech illiterate. Ask them anything but to use a pre installed system or pop in a CD that was given to them (No they can't burn one themselves) and they'll fail

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago

With all the UI changes on every version in the last few years that simply isn't true. Windows is becoming harder and harder to use even if you know what you are doing, much less if you don't know half the computer related terminology.

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Actually, not really. It's becoming more like what a smart device would look/feel, which is what most people are accustomed to anyway by now. Sure, options and settings get removed left and right, but that is not a concern for your every day Joe. They just need something to do their taxes in or watch a movie or play a few dumb clips on YT, that's it. Oh and of course it comes preinstalled with the computer, so they can do all that out of the box, great!

You ask any person that uses MS Office whether they like the pre-2007 menu layout (1997-2003) of Office or the new (post-2007) menu layout, you'll always get the same answer, the post-2007 is better. Why? I really have no idea, but they say it's better. Maybe it's the thing with the icon buttons, or just having a ribbon with the most used tools, IDK. My point is, LibreOffice uses the pre-2007 classical layout. For most people, this is confusing. I find it simple and elegant, the way a GUI text/spreadsheet editor should look and feel. But, than again, I'm with computers since I was a kid, so drop down menus are not a new thing for me. People rarely use any menu that's not a full screen one (or at least one that's big enough to take away at least half the screen). Why? IDK, but I think smart devices are to blame for that.

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[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

I can't imagine walking around and just assuming everything is a magic black box and not have the slightest curiosity about how something works.

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Believe it or not, not everyone is intersted in tech. Most people just live out their lives oblivious to how stuff works.

Like me for example, I have almost 0 interest in medicine. The human body is not exactly a black box to me, but I don't usually remember deseases names and stuff like that, even though some people remember all those things without putting too much effort into it.

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[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Except for the fact, that you do that to plenty of other disciplines of life. It is simply that some people need a computer to work, they don't need one as a hobby. They don't want to "learn a new thing" they want their machine to output some calculations in excel. Same as you don't learn woodworking when ordering a table from Ikea, or learning medicine when going to a checkup.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same as you don’t learn woodworking when ordering a table from Ikea, or learning medicine when going to a checkup.

Maybe I'm different than most, but I DO wonder how that table is made, and I do try to educate myself on how the medicines I take actually work. There's been times I've wasted almost an entire day binging Wikipedia.

I'm not saying I have in depth knowledge of fields outside my own, but I do make an attempt. Like, I'm not a gearhead at all, and I only care about cars being able to take me to work and back. But I do know how internal combustion works, and I have a general understanding of the components of an engine.

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

You're an inqusitive mind (so am I) and there is nothing wrong with that.

But, do understand that most people aren't. Either because they didn't have proper guidance when they were young or just have no interest in involving themselves in new things, doesn't really matter, the fact is that, yes, most people don't really care how stuff works.

You might surround yourself with people that are like you, so you don't see the other ones. Trust me when I say this, most people are not like you. I'd say about 5 to 10% of people are like you, that's it.

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Imagine having a CD in 2024 /s

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[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[-] LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol 59 points 1 year ago

You guys have windows partitions?

[-] Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I keep dual windows on laptop for rare occasions cuz I don't like dealing with passthrough for special USB cables that require their own drivers on VMs

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Yep, pretty much the same reason, just have to use it, mostly because of software that interacts with hardware, in one way or another.

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[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

I do. I wanted to finish something there that I couldn't easily move to Linux. A DVD project using files scattered accross the system in DVDStyler. I didn't notice DVDStyler works on Linux.
Now I am basically keeping it due to sunk cost fallancy. It has lots of menus and videos, plus some of them I cut myself. But I don't even remember where I ended. There was also something about color limitation in menus I wanted to fix. I last shut it down during an update about 2-3 years ago.
But who knows, maybe later at some point...

But I could really use those extra 400GB. I only have 15GiB free right now...

[-] cyanarchy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Not on bare metal, for this reason

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Skill issue. Can't click a Windows entry if you don't have one!

[-] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Can't click on Windows, if have no Windows 😏

[-] laurelraven 37 points 1 year ago

You use your mouse for GRUB?

[-] LovePoson@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Me with only linux installed: not a problem i face, no

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[-] gogosempai@programming.dev 32 points 1 year ago

Ah old days... I used to boot into Windows 10 just for gaming but when Valve's Proton matured to the point that all my games could work on Linux I very happily nuked it out of existence. But yeah if someone plays Fortnite or needs Adobe products then you still can't do much unfortunately.

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[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 year ago

Just hold the power button until it gets quiet.

... shush, don't fight it, it will be over soon.

[-] macaroni1556@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

I always imagine this when hard rebooting any device

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[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know, I know... we were just not meant to be, sorry...

[-] shalva97@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It could be installing updates

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[-] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

I'm not into programming, and I'm an LGBTQIA Ally. Just genuinely curious. Are 90% of Linux users really young white femboys with anime body pillows? Or is Lemmy just a heavily skewed demographic?

[-] exoplanetary@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

It’s mostly just a stereotype. I know plenty of young white femboys who use Windows, and I’m a Linux user who is young and white but definitely not a femboy. I would say 90% of Linux users probably know how to program though.

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[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Dual booters are fem-boys with anime body pillows.

Those brave enough to take the full plunge and single boot Linux are fem-men with anime body pillows.

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[-] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

It's just Lemmy!

[-] vardogor@mander.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

these comments always remind me how small the amount of my peers here probably is. i wonder how many other lemmy users have cooked crack

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[-] danikpapas@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

To extend your statistical research I'm a GNU/LINUX. user, i have never watched an anime, I'm white, extremely racist and a lgbtqia hater.

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[-] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

I haven't booted into my windows 10 drive in months, I fear the amount of updates it will force apon me if I accidentally do.

[-] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

I was in that situation a while ago, so I booted in to try and keep it up to date. Well, in reality I booted into recovery mode as it decided to die. Anyway I'm now duel booting arch and tumbleweed

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[-] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

How?

No dual boot here, Windows is confined to a VM. Even in the ancient times I had dual boot, last century, Linux was always the default.

[-] faercol 10 points 1 year ago

There's also the possibility of selecting the last booted OS by default instead of a specific entry

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[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 22 points 1 year ago

Windows is installing update 2 of 48...

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, that was back in the WinVista/7/8/8.1 days, it doesn't show the number of updates any more. Plus, a lot of the updates are cumulative, they abandoned their earlier model.

And, I have to admit, the update process is a lot faster now and a lot less error prone.

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[-] bastion@feddit.nl 12 points 1 year ago

That just doesn't happen to me.

I use rEFInd.

[-] ExLisper@linux.community 6 points 1 year ago

That also doesn't happen to me.

The last time I had Windows installed anywhere was around 15 years ago.

[-] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

you don’t have it default to linux..?

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[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

What Windows? I got Debian, and some shit that tests my memory.

[-] Asudox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your memory or your computer's memory? Huge difference.

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[-] rony4102@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Takes gazillion years to boot

[-] key@lemmy.keychat.org 7 points 1 year ago

Does grub even support mouse? Wouldn't you have to arrow down to it and hit enter?

[-] backhdlp 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[-] Caboose12000@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

does anyone know how to actually reorganze a grub menu? every time I try to Google it I only get results for some old software that hasnt been updated in ~~over a decade~~ 8 years. its a huge pain to have to select the distro I want every time just because its not first

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[-] iwan2c@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

same thing happens to me but with temple os

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