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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 299 points 11 months ago

The vaccine works by instructing the body to make up to 34 “neoantigens.” These are proteins found only on the cancer cells, and Moderna personalizes the vaccine for each recipient so that it carries instructions for the neoantigens on their cancer cells.

That’s pretty dope

[-] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 109 points 11 months ago
[-] parpol@programming.dev 145 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He must be one of those non-Americans with universal healthc*re

[-] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

But... But everyone having a right to medical care whether they're rich or poor? Unthinkable! Think of the shareholders!

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago

I wonder if, even at this early stage of the therapy’s development, this would actually be more affordable than the alternative.

Melanoma patients are highly likely to have the cancer come back and or metastasize. Repeat treatments and hospitalizations are not cheap.

[-] overzeetop@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Which is why the Moderna vaccine will be priced at just 95% of the cost of the repeat treatments and hospitalization plus the value of the time saved and pain and suffering avoidance by the patient. Say, an extra half a million. I mean, what price would you put on avoiding seeing your parent or child subjected to round after round of chemotherapy?

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 239 points 11 months ago

Time for the antivax doomsday cult to extol the virtues of cancer.

[-] KreekyBonez@lemmy.world 109 points 11 months ago

god wants the children to have incurable tumors

[-] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 56 points 11 months ago

I mean don't people already spout this crap?

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[-] themurphy@lemmy.world 154 points 11 months ago

This is amazing news for countries with free healthcare! Even though the vaccine is expensive, it's nowhere as expensive as the care a cancer patient needs today.

Plus you can send a healthy individual back to their families and into society again.

[-] BlueBockser@programming.dev 59 points 11 months ago

Idk man that sounds pretty communist to me

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[-] grayman@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

It's not free, it's socialized. This means expenses are passed to the tax payers. But like you said, if it lowers costs long term, it's worth the short term cost increase.

[-] themurphy@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

True. My point is that when healthcare is socialised, the government will be the one having to budget the cost/benefit.

Meaning a cure will always be the most profitable, meaning we will see this for all citizens fast.

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[-] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 105 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You know what this sounds like to me?

Like Moderna is gonna ask $10k a poke.

Edit: ITT: Pharma bros telling me how awesome artificially-inflated medication prices are.

[-] R00bot 57 points 11 months ago

Sure would be nice if capitalism didn't exist 🤪

[-] sugartits@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago
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[-] mriguy@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

In this case, you have to develop an individual vaccine for every patient based on the DNA from their own cancer. That’s actually a lot of work. $10K a poke is very reasonable given that you could easily spend 10 or 100 times that on conventional treatment.

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[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 24 points 11 months ago

Oh, what villains! Developing a cure for cancer and asking for ten thousand dollars for it!

In terms of cancer treatment, do you have any idea how small ten thousand dollars is?

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[-] nbafantest@lemmy.world 95 points 11 months ago

“We think that in some countries the product could be launched under accelerated approval by 2025.”

Thats literally next year. That's amazing.

Can't wait to see what other uses we can find for mRNA

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 43 points 11 months ago

Cure for auto immune diseases is incoming FWIW

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 89 points 11 months ago

Fuck cancer, this sounds great!

[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 74 points 11 months ago

LOL I just remembered that some folks in the anti-covid-vax/maga category have been referring to the mRNA covid vaccines as 'the cancer vaccines' based on disinformation that they would 'interact with your genes' and 'give you cancer in 2 years'

Seeing this headline [Moderna’s mRNA cancer vaccine works even better than thought] I had to look to see if it was the cancer-targeting vaccine or some mouth-breathers talking about the covid ones 😅

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 11 months ago

I'm going to preface this by saying I had the moderna series and all boosters. Also had COVID once, ironically the weekend before Id scheduled a booster. I entirely believe that the vaccine is effective at reducing infection rates and severity.

have been referring to the mRNA covid vaccines as 'the cancer vaccines'

Ironic, because they literally started as "cancer vaccines", literally a niche cancer treatment. When they were first approved in 2008.

based on disinformation that they would 'interact with your genes' and 'give you cancer in 2 years'

We really don't know the long term consequences of mRNA vaccines. The COVID vaccine is the first application of them at large scale, and the first application of them where we'd normally expect most recipients to still be alive and mostly healthy ten years down the road (again, because they were originally created as a cancer treatment).

Check in in 2030 and we'll know whether or not we made a good bet on that one. We probably did, but there's a reason the manufacturers were given immunity from liability for anything that comes of the COVID vaccines.

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[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 68 points 11 months ago

cue antivaxxers' pro-plague and pro-death screeching 🤦‍♂️

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 32 points 11 months ago

Any day now those vaxxed will drop dead!!

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[-] june@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago

I wonder if my mom will accept this vaccine for her cancer after years of believing all the conspiracy theories about the COVID vaccine. I’m willing to bet that if she has the opportunity, she’ll jump on it.

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[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 23 points 11 months ago

I hope so much that this isn't a predecessor to this.

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[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 23 points 11 months ago

what's really cool is this plus telomerase will give us a youth serum

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

what's really cool is this plus telomerase will give the extremely wealthy a youth serum

FTFY

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