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[-] themurphy@lemmy.world 154 points 2 years ago

This is amazing news for countries with free healthcare! Even though the vaccine is expensive, it's nowhere as expensive as the care a cancer patient needs today.

Plus you can send a healthy individual back to their families and into society again.

[-] BlueBockser@programming.dev 59 points 2 years ago

Idk man that sounds pretty communist to me

[-] halm@leminal.space 16 points 2 years ago

I know, right? It's almost like communism is a good idea or something.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You and the person above you are confusing communism with socialism

[-] halm@leminal.space 3 points 2 years ago

¿Por qué no los dos? I'm not confused.

[-] grayman@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago

It's not free, it's socialized. This means expenses are passed to the tax payers. But like you said, if it lowers costs long term, it's worth the short term cost increase.

[-] themurphy@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

True. My point is that when healthcare is socialised, the government will be the one having to budget the cost/benefit.

Meaning a cure will always be the most profitable, meaning we will see this for all citizens fast.

[-] grayman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Not the most profitable... The least expensive, long term. The most profitable would be the cheapest option but the most possible tax is collected. The whole point is to reduce burden on the tax payers, not maximize tax revenue.

[-] themurphy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

A healthy individual is more profitable, so as I said, a cure will be the best option - always.

And yes, it's profitable. No ones talking about maximising it and collecting more tax. But it's a great example on how Americans think.

[-] grayman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

So you are arguing the govt should run a profitable business?

[-] Kit 7 points 2 years ago

Are you struggling with reading comprehension or just being purposely obtuse?

[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Plus you can send a healthy individual back to ~~their families and into society~~ work again.

This is how the US will use this.

[-] XTornado@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

And everywhere else let's be honest....

[-] themurphy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

True, except the US doesn't even do that. It's your fault for getting cancer, so you pay yourself. :))

[-] Welt@lazysoci.al 1 points 2 years ago

Lol everywhere. Ever been outside your country?

[-] DeuxChevaux@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

The shareholders of the pharma-industry will not be happy. You have to manage a disease, not heal it; that would be detrimental for the balance sheet.

And unhappy shareholders of big pharma is definitely not what we want; if they are happy, we will be happy.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Pharma employees are famously not people who themselves or whose loved ones can also be affected by cancer...

The reason your healthcare sucks in the us is the insurance industry mate...

[-] slumberlust@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Right, we certainly can't have more than one factor.

[-] themurphy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Worst take on Lemmy in 2024, already calling it now.

[-] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

They'll have to fight the shareholders of the health insurance industry, who don't want to pay for a long-term condition

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