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submitted 10 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Dave Chappelle has released a new Netflix special, The Dreamer, which is full of jokes about the trans community and disabled people.

“I love punching down!” he tells the audience, in a one-hour show that landed on the streaming service today (31 December).

It’s his seventh special for Netflix and comes two years after his last one, the highly controversial release The Closer.

That programme was criticised for its relentless jokes about the trans community, and Chappelle revisits the topic in his new show.

He tells jokes about trans women in prison, and about trans people “pretending” to be somebody they are not.

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[-] sartalon@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

The Independent knew what they were doing.

They take a couple of his lines completely out of context, put it in a headline, and people can't wait to post a comment about how much they hate him.

I wonder how many of you have been given your opinion of him and never actually watched him?

I will definitely admit this latest special was "meh". But man, I'm pretty confident most of the commenters here have strong opinions of this special without ever watching it.

This thread reads like a bunch of Boomers were given a headline that "Biden paid for coke that Hunter snorted off hookers butt, in the Whitehouse.", and couldn't wait to post how much they hate Biden and that he's a criminal, or whatever.

[-] braxy29@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

okay, so you watched him and i didn't (got rid of netflix a few years ago).

did he make a bunch of jokes about trans people and people with disabilities? what's the context you got that i need to more accurately understand this performance?

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 32 points 10 months ago

Stephen Fry once said that comedy is about punching up. Anyone can punch down, it takes real talent to punch up, you have to make fun of your betters, because they think they are your betters.

Beating on people who are already incredibly socially ostracized is not comedy, it's bullying. If you think it's comedy then you're a bully.

[-] Rognaut@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

Ehh. I'll probably still watch it.

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[-] icepick3455o65@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

ITT: People who thought it was ok and punching up when he made fun of ghetto black people early in his career but today have an objection when its trans white people being the topic of 3 jokes out of an hour special

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[-] deagle2008@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

His flavor of comedy is offensive comedy. That's what made him successful. That's why I like him. He tells jokes based on what his opinions are. I don't recall him asking anyone to adopt his thinking.

[-] gorlak@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

That’s an amazing skill to separate the comedy from the opinion, or do you agree with his opinions, too?

Nobody, practically, asks to “adopt their thinking”. It’s implicit by taking a public pulpit like this. One doesn’t get on stage unless they want to be heard. He isn’t a victim of his own success. Humor is a completely viable path to social and political commentary.

You don’t have to ask because people by and large don’t choose their beliefs. They are mostly indoctrinated into them via rationalization of inherent biases and other environmental factors. How many Muslims are born into FLDS households in Utah?

Overt bigotry and marginalization gives cover to viewers’ rationalization that it’s okay to have thoughts of discrimination against outgroups.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

Well, I’m glad I’m closing my Netflix account.

[-] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Love how he did jokes about black poverty and drug addicts for years and everyone was fine with it., but are suddenly pearl clutching about trans gags.

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[-] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 27 points 10 months ago

I hate that Netflix keeps recommending this to me. No. I don't want this kind of shit.

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Old man that's not funny and becoming irrelevant got a lot of attention from right wing chuds, so decided to pander to the right wing chuds to try and stay relevant.

[-] galloFino@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

He's got a really niche audience. People who think they're all cool just for being "politically incorrect." Like other comedians in the american scene.

I used to like his comedy – great storyteller and all. But lately, it's like his specials follow this routine: some jokes on how racism's still an issue, mixed with a bit of him claiming he's the top comedian alive. And let's not forget the bits where he suggests making fun of people's choices is all in good fun.

The crowd at these specials? Feels like a bunch of yes men, laughing and clapping at every word from Chappelle. It makes watching his stuff on Netflix a bit of a struggle for me.

Don't get me wrong, the guy's talented. Awesome timing and storytelling. But nowadays, being a badass doesn't mean being a bully, and it seems like that shift bugs him and his entourage of yes men. That's probably why his specials come off a bit too harsh, at least in my book.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Yeah that's like all he does these days. The guy is out of material. Like the third or fourth special where that's the main Crux of it. Washed up

[-] dodeca@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Why does he think about trans people so much? Hmmm.

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[-] kinther@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

If you are disgusted by this and still subscribe to Netflix, you should consider canceling. Vote with your money and hit them in the share price.

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[-] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

This is just NotTheOnion territory at this point

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[-] Sho@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I knew this clown was on the decline since his first Netflix special where he has that bit about child molestation and how if its someone like Michael Jackson, it's NBD. Talk about cringe inducing.

[-] markr@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Chapelle and Gervais seem stuck on hitting people who really can't hit back. Fucking Chapelle brags about it, Gervais is now pretending its all an act. Fuck both of them.

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