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It is not Lemmy or kbin, it is the fediverse. (kbin.social)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Cat@kbin.social to c/RedditMigration@kbin.social

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I don't think many people understand that if they use Lemmy or kbin, they are posting to the fediverse. There are other platforms and will be more to come. Referring to a post on "Lemmy" or "kbin" is like saying you saw a post on your Windows or Mac computer.

We should be referring to it as...

I saw it on the fediverse.
Hey fediverse users ...
A thread on the fediverse...

New terms may emerge but referring to the platform seems weird, almost ignorant.

edit: A better example is email. You wouldn't assume everyone is on Hotmail because that is the email provider you use. You say I'm sendingan eamail, not I'm sending a Hotmail.

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[-] unefois@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Actually, it's spelled 'faits divers'.

[-] Sarsaparilla@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Personally I agree, but we all know what someone means when they say "posting on Lemmy" etc. I simply make it a point to refer to it as "the fediverse" in my own posts. Eventually people will catch onto the right terminology, especially as more software platform options become available for the Fediverse ... like Threads (though those ppl will probably always call it Threads because that will be all they know and understand of it).

[-] Levetamae@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I like how the Memmy app introduces new users to what the fediverse is and what a server means. I had found that out beforehand but it was still helpful when I downloaded the app today.

I’m new to it all, but it’s so interesting. Now I want to know what else I don’t know about that’s on the web. 👀

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[-] Wooly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm not referencing the fediverse, it's stupid. But also, lemmy isn't a great name so I probably just won't mention anything like that.

[-] bvanevery@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

"The Fediverse is stupid."
"The Fediverse is stupid."
Negativeland said Christianity is stupid.
Christianity is stupid.
Communism is good!
[then a lot of chanting and noisemaking]

[-] WeLoveCastingSpelz@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

🤓🤓🤓 just use whatever

[-] richard_wagner@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This is going to reveal my ignorance:

How does the federation work from a high level? On Reddit, data is stored and managed by Reddit.

How about the fediverse? If the data isn’t centrally located, what is stopping some data from just being lost at any time? Who owns the servers?

If the servers are owned by anyone who wants to own a server, I assume there will still be popular servers that get the most traffic. And if those servers have high traffic, how will they sustain that model? How do they “keep the lights on” without ads?

Thanks for helping me understand.

[-] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

https://lemmy.world/comment/20357

This comment was very helpful when I first joined. Long story short, each server is locally storing data for its own users and communities, and also for external communities that at least one user is subscribed to.

Everything is either self or donor funded, and it is my understanding that this model can scale quite a bit without a crazy amount of donations.

But if we get into instances with over a million users, I'm not sure when/if the donor funded model eventually breaks down. That'll be a good problem to have though, because it means this platform will have been a massive success.

[-] anamethatisnt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I think Ruuds starting guide post in !lemmyworld@lemmy.world is good too.
Are the bang links working for kbin users too or only lemmy? https://lemmy.world/post/37906

[-] Cat@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Bang links work for users on Kbin.

If that is Lemmy creating the URL or kbin seeing the bang format and using it, I don't know... off to find out :-)

edit: experimenting here !kbin
edit2: I think Lemmy is creating a regular link out of that. My bang above was not auto converted on kbin.

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[-] Cat@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Others have commented well on funding. The best way to think of how the fediverse works is email. Email is federated. Multiple users from different providers can reply all and everyone gets a copy. That is a simplified way to think of the fediverse. People using kbin and Lemmy have replied in this thread. We all see it, we're just using different providers to read and reply in the fediverse.

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[-] devious@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I don't think many people understand that if they use Lemmy or kbin, they are posting to the fediverse

Does it matter? I saw this post on the Fediverse, but I also saw it on Lemmy, I also saw it on lemmy.world, I also saw it on LiftOff, I also saw it on my phone, I saw it on the internet, and I saw it while taking a shit. All those are correct and it's only an issue using any of those if it confuses the conversation and in most cases your requested level of pedantry will not add anything useful to a discussion (unless maybe the discussion is about how the Fediverse works).

[-] Nicenightforawalk@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

So can I log into a lemmy app with my kbin details ? Or do I have to sign up on lemmy ?

[-] favrion@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If I see a post on Lemmy World, then it's from Lemmy World.

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