Assholes will get big dogs, abuse ignore and isolate them, then act surprised when they act unpredictably.
Breed specific legislation isn't the answer. The answer is for mandatory training courses predating dog ownership. All dog ownership too. Little dogs can be assholes too.
Breed specific legislation isn’t the answer.
When 1 breed is per capita significantly higher represented... yes it is.
Little dogs can be assholes too.
Little dogs can't kill you.
If we breed a dog to be the size of a hippo... Is that still okay to have? Even if it's only 6x as dangerous as the next breed?
it's higher because people use pitbulls for dog fights, etc... if you abuse an animal it's more likely to attack someone.
if you look at stats, getting killed by a rotweiler or a german Shepard isn't that far off.
which would be the next two "tough dude" cool pets...
not to mention, pitbulls aren't even a breed, really... there's plenty of pit cousins that would be the new pitbulls... plus half breeds and whatnot...
my solution is to just require all small children carry revolvers... super simple, and those dogs will think twice before attacking them.
They didn't just use pitbulls, they specifically bred pitbulls to fight and never give up. It's deep in their brain.
This is correct. My argument isn't just that they top the lists... it's ALSO that the damage they do is much higher than any other breed as well. These concepts are inextricably linked.
When a pomeranian bites you, it's whatever... bleeds a little bit, you put a bandaid on it later, but punt the fucker now. If a pitbull bites you... You might be missing part of your fucking leg. Try punting a pitbull...
We have more known attacks that are pitbulls simply because the damage they do is so fucking much more that it can't just be handled in private. It's actually probably 100% probably that pitbulls on average strictly bite at the same rates as other dogs... But the sheer amount of damage done by pitbulls means those bites = more deaths and hospitalizations. I've never once claimed that pitbulls bite more or less than any other breed, simply that they cause more casualties (and often specify deaths).
This is correct. My argument isn't just that they top the lists... it's ALSO that the damage they do is much higher than any other breed as well. These concepts are inextricably linked.
This is called gameness and the trait is not inextricable for pit bull breeds. It was bred into them through selection, not too dissimilar to how those stubby faced breeds were bred to be that way (e.g. pugs).
If pit bull breeds were selectively bred to reduce/remove that trait it would change things. It’s almost like the root problem isn’t the dogs but the people and breeding practices.
"Deep in their brain" is that a science term. I kid. I would like to know the science behind it, though.
We should just breed our toddlers to be vicious dog-killers machines, problem solved. I want my kid to be able to tear everything to shreds on the playground by the time he hits 6.
When 1 breed is per capita significantly higher represented... yes it is.
You could use the same logic to desperage American minorities. I think we can all do a little better here, don't you?
No. I don't compare humans to animals that were specifically bred for aggression. But you do you.
You're just being disingenuous, his point was obvious. You could make the identical argument (and many morons have) that minority X dominates violent crime statistics, therefore minority X is inherently more violent and we should legislate minority X.
It's a dumb ass argument regardless of species.
So now you're equating animals that were specifically bred to be aggressive with minorities... And I'm being disingenuous?
It's more represented because morons buy that breed more than others. When they get banned it's other breeds that start attacking people.
It’s higher represented because morons buy that breed more than others.
You don't understand what "per capita" means do you?
When they get banned it’s other breeds that start attacking people.
Cool... I'll take being attacked by a pomeranian any day. I can at least punt those little fuckers over a fence.
You don't really understand how statistics work do you? Per capita can still get artificially skewed in favor of one breed or another. For an example, let's say we have red Legos and blue Legos and statistics say that murderers are more likely to pick red Legos. As a result, more people pick blue Legos because they don't want to be perceived as murderers, leaving the red Legos for murderers and people who are skeptical or ignorant of the statistics. The result will be that there's a much higher number of murderers per-captia with red Legos than with blue Legos.
The same can be applied to pitbulls. Create the story that pitbulls are man-killers, and the stats will get skewed as people looking for man-killers buy more pitbulls and people looking for companions intentionally avoid them. The result will be that there are more man-killer pitbulls per capita because that's what they're being trained for. It's called a self-fullfilling prophecy. Maybe pitbulls truly do have a disposition for being man-killers, however their reputation means that the stats will be skewed in favor of the man-killers trait, as more people will buy them to make them man-killers.
Maybe pitbulls truly do have a disposition for being man-killers
Loved your comment, just wanted to chime in that what you’re referring to in the quoted portion above is commonly called gameness. Generally speaking it’s not that pit bulls are more prone to attack by default but their attacks are more unrelenting.
Yeah the statistics on this are incredibly clear.
For the US this year it's overwhelming staffy / Pitbulls causing human deaths.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States
I knew someone who had a badly behaved dog, it attacked their partner so they put it down.
A few weeks later "I'm getting another one and I'm going to train it myself" Meaning they just won't train it, lost their shit when someone called them out as a dog killer. People don't deserve animals, people suck.
A minute of silence for all the people killed by asshole chihuahuas...
Yeah, for real. Pitbulls are the common target because they're the "vicious dog". It's a self-fullfilling prophecy. Talk about how pitbulls are vicious man-killers, people who want vicious man-killers buy them and train them to be vicious man-killers, pitbulls become vicious man-killers. Meanwhile, the people who want a family dog don't get pitbulls because, well, they're "vicious man-killers". The result is that statistics get skewed in favor of the "vicious man-killer" status, leading to people seeing the breed as nothing more than vicious man-killers.
That’s such a weird situation because I do agree with the criticism of the age of consent being different for gay acts vs straight ones, but also 15’s a bit young there and they think it’s too high. Yikes.
16 is pretty normal in both the US and Europe
That depends on the state. The larger states tend to trend towards older.
California, ~39 million. 18 Texas, ~30 million. 17 Florida, ~23 million. 18 NY, ~20 million. 18
Pennsylvania at about 13 million is the first in population to see 16...
over 1/3rd of the country is represented in the top 4 states there... and all would say that 16 is not normal...
That gives a whole new meaning to the expression 🤢 Fr*nch "people" 🤮
Thanks for lumping me and my contemporaries with a small subset of barely famous old weirdos who mostly died before we were even born, I guess
Bruh, french guys?
What about French philosophers named Princess?
A lot of them were pedophiles and used their positions as published academics to argue the "philosophy" of "child love". Pitbulls also have a bad wrap around kids.
Keep in mind that France produces a lot of philosophy in general, and there's plenty of grassroot and intellectual pushback to the ideas.
You could also just as easily, for example, make this joke about the founders of American "libertarianism," arguably a kind of philosopher.
Yeah but only in France can they get called out on TV and it's the person calling them out that gets shunned!
Shootout to Denise Bombardier trying to get people to realise that Gabriel Matzneff is a pedo in 1990 only for Justice to wait another 30 years before launching an investigation even if he was directly referencing having sex with underage girls in his books.
I would trust the pitbull. Besides, they're not as bad as people make them out to be.
The pitbull, obviously.
That kid's getting fucked up either way.
It depends on who Princess's owner is. Lemmy's hate for Pitbulls is so fucking idiotic.
Pitbull owner: He IS a philosopher and a big ol sweetie
Pitbull is chewing on a person's arm.
I would definitely choose a french philosopher. I'm sure there are many french philosophers who would make good babysitters
Edit: You know there are more french philosophers out there then just old dead guys? There are many philosophers who are Frech still living today
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