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[-] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago

A genocidal state.

[-] criitz@reddthat.com 26 points 1 year ago

It's Michael Keaton for me

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can't beat that Burton Batmobile and Elfman theme

[-] DarkGamer@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hi, I see in the modlog that dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 's post was removed for "violating rule 1," which is, "be civil and nice."

Israel is discriminating non-citizens like every other state while e. g. Arabic citizens have full civil rights. As much as you might hate Israel, this is not Apartheit.

What isn't nice or civil about this post? They shared their opinion, one I consider reasonable, in a way that was inoffensive. Can the mods please elaborate on your mod policy here, are only anti-Israel opinions allowed?

(original comments still visible on kbin, though site is unstable atm)

[-] doidera@lemmy.eco.br 27 points 1 year ago

@dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com

WTH?! Israel is by all metrics an apartheid state. Whether you accept it or not.

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[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That comment is so idiotic and/or bad faith that I totally get removing it. Better to remove it than clog up the comments with a dozen people trying to explain why they're wrong and the OP likely sea lioning them all.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago

I mean, Patterson was good but bail is iconic. The dark knight trilogy were so big, it made most movies gritty.

[-] jagoan@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Unpopular opinion: Bale happened to be the Batman of the best Batman movie, his Batman is kinda meh. And I wish Afflect was in better Batman movies.

[-] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Now that you call it out, I agree! Bale gets a lot of praise for his ability to morph his body for different roles, but is otherwise only alright as an actor. But he happens to be in many great movies with other iconic figures which really elevates his cachet.

Affleck is pretty good. I also really liked Pattenson's emo sad-Bruce version quite a bit more than I expected to. For me, nothing will ever be as nostalgic and iconic as the Tim/Conroy animated portrayal.

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[-] scytale@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Batfleck definitely has the look and is more comic “accurate”. I’m sure he would’ve killed it in a better film and not directed by Snyder.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Shame they aren't still using him. He makes a good, grizzled Batman that just doesn't play around anymore.

[-] RQG@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Petterson is iconic but he would be nothing without Findus.

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[-] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago

Israel is discriminating non-citizens like every other state while e. g. Arabic citizens have full civil rights. As much as you might hate Israel, this is not Apartheit.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 36 points 1 year ago

they totally control all the borders of the Palestinian people. excluding them from citizenship is part of the apartheid.

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Damn, this is embarrassing

[-] foggianism@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Educate yourself on the matter before you continue spouting nonsense: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q_MDC2Gty4I&si=x4COLgcQIaEaWIE7

[-] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Kevin Conroy was the best Batman

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[-] rdri@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Deep down we know that doing terrorism will not solve any problems.

[-] peg@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

And yet the Israelis keep at it.

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 21 points 1 year ago

Why stop when there's no consequences

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 19 points 1 year ago

Fun History Fact:

The Black Hands terrorist organization, the ones that killed Archduke Ferdinand, hoped that by doing so they would start a civil war that would result in a victory for Serbia, specifically creating a "Greater Serbia" from the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian Empire where they had dominance over their regional neighbors.

Obviously, that didn't happen.

Instead WW1 happened.

Which ended in the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the creation of Yugoslavia, a constitutional monarchy with a Serbian royal family, capital in Serbia.

(And then they made everyone hate them because they were assholes both as a monarchy and a communist state)

Second, Bonus Fun History Fact:

Terroristic tactics have left Afghanistan as the only nation to have defeated occupations by the British Empire, the Soviet Union, and America, the three most powerful states since the collapse of the Mongol Empire.

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[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Viet Cong's success in reuniting Vietnam says otherwise.

Attacking villages, taking hostages, and using guerilla tactics (like both Viet Cong did and Hamas are doing) are just the most effective ways of driving out an occupying force, and they wouldn’t be necessary if the oppressors weren’t there in the first place.

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Israel was born in Nazism, molded by it. Palestinians merely adopted being oppressed.

[-] GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Adam West was the best! And it even rhymes.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago

The end line was so unexpected that I had a good laugh. That a truth was snuck in unexpectedly was excellent.

[-] Random_user@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Ben's version of batman was best batman. Not much who was playing him, but how batman acted and handled himself.

[-] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Horrible script but great acting. If Affleck was younger I'd want to see him take the mantle properly

Compromise time: he's a (mostly) retired Batman, and we can have a younger actor as Batman Beyond?

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[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Michael Keaton will always be my Batman

[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 6 points 1 year ago

i side mostly with mental outlaw

[-] FridayChad@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

No one in the Arabic/muslim world really cares about Palestine. Meanwhile Israel is winning this war on terror. We will never forget this 07. October. Now‘s payday. And soon West Bank will be inhabited by jewish people.

It's funny how you claim Israel is "winning this war on terror," yet everything after that in your comment sounds like something a terrorist would say.

[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nevermind mind the fact the war on terror was something the US came up with and then badly fucked that up. Dude's not even a competent troll.

From the POV of the US, I'd argue that the war on terror was a rousing success. They got the surveillance state they wanted.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

War on Drugs caused drugs to become more available, more potent, and cheaper.

War on Terror has created entirely new terrorist organizations.

Could we have a War on Wealth?

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[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

What they meant to say is: "Israel is winning the war on terror on the side of terror"

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Palestinians are not All Arabic nor Muslim. (saying Arabic/Muslim shows how little people understand the difference. It's as dumb as saying Caucasian/Christian. You can be one, both, or none.) Palestinian genetically are a mix of all Mediterranean peoples. And that includes Greek, European, and Arabs. Also, the Palestinian people are more secular than the surrounding Muslim countries... Second, there is no winning a war on terror. Not in the way you are thinking anyways. Every innocent person killed by Israel spawns new terrorists. It's unwinnable through violence.

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[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago

Israel are terrorists, and invaders in the West Bank deserve to be shot

[-] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The West Bank is already inhabited by illegal Jewish settlements. It's a big part of why Hamas were provoked into October 7th and very much why the Arab world and wider international community have been so critical of Israel since well before this conflict.

Hamas still need to be stopped, but the current war is a terrible humanitarian tragedy that didn't need to happen this way. The Israeli government could have vowed to end Hamas without a land war in Gaza, which anyone with half a brain should realize would inevitably lead to massive civilian casualties due to the population density of Gaza and how Hamas operate by martyring their own people in the name of Jihad - as it indeed has.

I don't believe Israel is an apartheid state - that's an exaggeration for sure. Plenty of Palestinian representation in Israel. Not enough, but more than we give the situation credit for. Nevertheless, what they're doing now is horrific, and how the Netanyahu government has been enabling the Jewish settlementation of the West Bank by forcing Palestians off their land is deeply unethical and an insult to human rights and dignity. Imagine being forced out of the only home you and your family have ever known? It's ghastly.

Bottom line is this could have been done differently with the right political will. I'm no expert, but here are some reasonable ideas: Properly evacuate everyone who wishes to leave and encourage Egypt to do their part to take in refugees, and any other Arab states. Create a safe, well defended evacuation route for refugees to flee, and keep it open, while you tightly secure the blockade around Gaza, and block/flood/raid the tunnels. Then, most importantly, for all Palestinian refugees, promise a "right of return" back to Gaza/West-Bank, or Israel proper to be a citizen of "Israeli-Palestine" which covers the whole area, after the war. What we might call a "1.5" state solution. Two states working together to help each other. Over time, work hard to find or build homes for refugees and all displaced Palestinian diaspora as close to where they came from as possible. Finally for the stability of the future, encourage local Palestians and Jews, whether they live in Israeli or Palestian controlled territories, to get along with each other and support these efforts with strong social programs.

Alas.

Hamas are terrorists yes. But there are plenty of good reasons to despise Netanyahu and his government.

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

That's rhe spirit! I guess a good Palestinian is a dead Palestinian, amiright?

[-] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

evil (n.): a manifestation of profound immorality and wickedness, especially in people's actions.

[-] rifugee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Disregarding acting ability, I don't think Pattinson had the physicality for it; he didn't look big enough to me to be believable. You could really tell the Batman costume had a lot of padding when you saw him as Bruce Wayne. I think he's just too lithe, for the lack of a better descriptor, for the character, you know?

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