The specifics of this article aside, I am so not looking forward to the continued proliferation of AI based bullshit on the internet/public discourse/the media/etc. It’s gonna get so so much worse, we’re just scratching the surface right now. The validity of any photo or video will be destroyed and nothing will be trustworthy anymore. This is great news for fascists who thrive in a world where the truth is unknowable and meaningless.
The specifics of US propaganda aside...
> The videos are part of at least 30 channels identified by researchers as being part of the "Shadow Play" network promoting pro-China and anti-U.S. narratives, according to the Australian Strategic Policy Institute.
> according to the Australian Strategic Policy Institute
> Australian
I'm shocked.
They've also infiltrated the administration of lemmy.ml and specifically c/worldnews.
Administration? Lemmy was built by a guy that denies tiananmen square massacre.
Can someone please explain to me the drama of Lemmy.ml and why everyone seems to be leaving it?
I don't know. I just saw a thread there yesterday about "young people are more favorable on China" and inevitably the discussion ended up being largely about the many Chinese atrocities, all of which the mods promptly removed, as well as leaving all the comments claiming that those were all CCP bots coming to...spread anti-Chinese propaganda?
I dunno, don't take my word for it, head over to worldnews@lemmy.ml and have a look for yourself through the barren comment sections.
Better yet, look at the modlog.
Lemmy.ml is run by ML. Marxist-LENINIST. They will not allow almost any critique of any government that falls under that umbrella ever. But will gladly hypocritically criticize any western power for the same thing.
If it was wrong for the US Britain and the west to do it. It's wrong for China, North Korea today or the Soviet Union in their time to have done it as well. Not a free pass for them to do it. When it comes to anything criticizing their political ideologies you may as well be on something like lemmy.conservative in many ways.
I mentioned EVs aren't the savior that people are pitching because they still require plastics and rare earth metals and often are fueled by electricity made with coal/oil.
They got so fucking mad lol
That has more to do with you regurgitating misinformation, than it does with the Chinese.
Those arguments have been debunked ad nauseam.
These are conservative talking points that have been repeatedly dispelled. Where are you getting this info from?
Next can you talk about the problem with renewables? Just to come full circle
Culturally there is no real concept of plagiarism or cheating in China. Any shortcut is acceptable, because if you aren't using it someone else is.
Everyone plagiarises until they become powerful enough to influence others to stop or face sanctions.
Fake it till you make it. Once you make it, call out others plagiarism.
Next week: China develops world's first 0nm chip!
-12nm
“Your joke, but worse!”
Do people really get their news and information from random YouTube channels?
YouTube is not a reliable source!
My father in law watches this crap all the time. Also every war propaganda video.
.. if not that, Thai boxing or bear hunting. Ya never know what he'll be watching as long as it's one of those. Oh unless it's Friday night, then he's watching SmackDown.
“Oh bother! America steals all the hunny!”
at this point I'm convinced China was just copying all of the "China gonna collapse in 3 days" videos
Sometimes I wonder if there are different "levels" of propaganda nation states put out. Like you have this obviously fake crap get a bunch of surface-knowlege people. Then you have more subtle things put out - like social media accounts pretending that something false is a ground truth. You'll then get people who can catch the fake videos and then believe the fake accounts no problem because it's obviously can't be propaganda - because you know what propaganda looks like. cough gell-mann amnesia cough
Or maybe nation states are really that incompetent and the only level of propaganda they can put out is like the article's videos. Honestly people give way too much credit to how much these folks know/plan out. There's no secret cabal playing 5d chess. They're normal people (ie. dumbfucks) pushing a message.
Who knows.
Propaganda is a quantity over quality game. You're not trying to convince the die-hard supporters of the other side, that's not realistic. You're trying to give informational cover to your own side.
It's like suppressive fire. Is the machine gunner specifically trying to kill the enemy? No, he's sending bullets whizzing overhead to change their behavior. Then his buddies can circle around their cover and very specifically aim at and kill them.
edit: You are right that it's no 5d chess though. It's more like the excuses you'd get out of a young kid. Just flak, intended to get in the way. Fired in quantity.
There's also Russian style propaganda which isn't really about sending any specific message but more about sowing chaos. It's about blasting people with so much contradictory information that they become overwhelmed and exhausted and just give up trying to pay attention to anything. To say it a different way it's about lowering the signal to noise ratio to the point where most people lose the signal.
China tends to favor targeted disinformation, they tightly control what people hear and have specific messages they push. Russia just tries to scream incoherent gibberish where nobody can hold a conversation anymore.
There’s also Russian style propaganda which isn’t really about sending any specific message but more about sowing chaos. It’s about blasting people with so much contradictory information that they become overwhelmed and exhausted and just give up trying to pay attention to anything.
"Flood the zone with shit"
— Steve Bannon
That makes sense, but the targets of my first paragraph wouldn't be the die-hards. It would be people who think they can identify fake news - but their hubris is what makes tricking them even easier. It would actually be much easier making fake accounts than making the fake YT videos.
If I was to use your analogy - it'd be like if the gunner's level of effort to land hits or to whiff were the same. [S]he'd obviously just hit them.
Alarming as this may sound, they’re beating a dead horse. Most of the people who would believe this shit uncritically also think Fox “News” is the gospel truth. They’re already lost.
Give them a break they don't have a 24 hour cable news channel for propaganda
They do it here too. Anything positive coming out of china is full of this shit and bootlickers quick behind them.
Anything positive coming from anywhere is likely to be at least strongly exaggerated.
RFA is literally a propaganda source.
Yes but it's pro-Western and thus good
Why is this a sign that they're using "Artificial Intelligence"? Sounds like they're just as likely using text-to-speech for planned propaganda. It's not like they don't have an ay of people to work on it.
AI hate gets people emotional and leads to more clicks. Couple that with anything to do with China and you end up with a couple bucks of ad money.
This made me think of what you can do with AI to poke fun at china, and sadly it seems that microsoft is a bit hard on anti china prompts. But like, life finds a way.....
What's next? They landed on the dark side of the sun? North Korea already did that.
This is very poor form, at least employ agents like the american 3 letters.
RFA is a private, nonprofit corporation, funded by the U.S. Congress through the U.S. Agency for Global Media (USAGM), an independent federal government agency that oversees all U.S. civilian international media. In addition to providing oversight, the USAGM works with RFA to ensure the professional independence and integrity of its journalism.
Well, China has to steal their tech from some foreign company, why not lie about it before they do.
Disclaimer: I didnt watch the video but did see the original post in question on Lemmy and was impressed. Now I'll never believe another pro-China post again. Nice work!
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