I wonder how much backtracking will be done. Are they going to listen to the concerns of the community or are they going to double down on their decisions?
Coming from Joey for Reddit. They pulled a survey today for its users asking 2 questions: if we'd be willing to pay and how much and for some suggestion for the future of the app.
I said no and suggested them to think about developing an app for Lemmy.
Joey is great. Looks like it lacks tools for modding, but I couldn't care less. It has everything else, is beautiful and customizable.
Such a shame to see it sinking because of Reddit's bullshit.
I really hope we go forward with this migration.
It's simply disappointing to see the disaster for the AMA. Saddens me to see Reddit go down like this. At least we got the Lemmy-proxy being a community project. Would love to still use Infinity as my main "reddit" browsing app, after all.
Wow, RedReader somehow managed to get spared due to its accessibility features. Was not on my bingo card at all. I guess somehow I can still manage to use Reddit completely ad free, but who knows for how long. Even better, the RedReader dev might have plans to integrate Lemmy into it.
The AMA with u/spez has started. Get your popcorn ready. It’s already been a good start
Hacker News: Reddit bans subreddit detailing how to move to competitor Kbin
KbinMigration Subreddit URL: https://old.reddit.com/r/KbinMigration
Hacker News Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36268458
What a colossal shit show. They're hellbent on destroying third party competition before the IPO. Next on the chopping block are old.reddit and porn.
Hello. While what Reddit is doing isn't great, it's the reality of running a site that's now owned by venture capital to make some kind of economic return for its owners. Running a site like that isn't free, and advertising dollars alone are probably not enough to generate the sort of return that its owners are looking for (or even pay for the its costs).
The core issue is twofold: Big Tech has devalued online services to the point where users are inured to not paying for them, and because of this inurement, most users are unwilling to pay for most online services if they don't seem to be offering a value add. Gaming services like Steam have managed to get their users to pay but that's because they are offering a service that's generally superior to piracy, such as immediate downloads, achievements, and other online services. But no one is ever going to pay to use a message board, and I doubt gimmicks like Reddit Gold bring in much money.
Perhaps the future is found in the past - people migrating back to self-hosted message boards - there used to be thousands of these back in the 1990s and 2000s. Some of them were run as small businesses, others were run as hobbyist projects by their owners. But I doubt there's going to be a mass exodus, and unfortunately, centralization has increasingly become the norm for the Internet.
AskHistorians and uncertainty surrounding the future of API access:
Putting into layman's terms what reddit is deleting. Also the number of false promises by Big Reddit, it's just crazy.
"First, thank you for all the years of dedication to Reddit. You’re amazing." - My favorite Mod post of the AMA
It’s sad to see Reddit go down this path, but the writing has been on the wall for awhile now. Losing Apollo is what had me make the jump to Lemmy.
Hopefully we build a strong community here.
Edit: typo
I read somewhere that the Infinity dev would just let us grab our own personal Reddit API keys and build the app from source.
If that is actually the case, we'd all individually be under the free limit. That is of course if Reddit gives out those API keys to everyone.
Obviously this solution would be challenging and the barrier to entry would be higher than just joining Lemmy or something. But it could be an option.
How much were these apps making in revenue? Curious how bad the gap is with the API pricing.
If I read it correctly Christian(Apollo Dev) made ~$500.000 for this year by having 50.000 people get the $10 subscription. The problem is that now, since on the 6th month of the year he is forced to shut it down, he has to refund these people for the rest of the money(so ~$250.000).
From what I understand though, the problem is that Reddit doesn't want to lose revenue from 3rd party apps avoiding adds, so in this section, from Christian's own recording(which is legal in Canada) he mentions that Apollo is costing $20m/year and that's what Reddit is after.
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