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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by vermyndax@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

I'm still trying to de-Google my life, little by little. I don't trust Bing for similar reasons. DDG is feeling shady of late. What's the search engine you all recommend that I can inject into my daily life? Is there perhaps a search engine that is focused on code, or have we just all moved on to AI for searching?

Edit: I meant to also express my frustration that most browsers do not let you select a "default search engine" that can be used in the address bar aside from 3-5 pre-chosen engines. Seems like 2023 we should be able to customize that to our own liking.

Edit 2: Thanks for the recommendation of Kagi. I'm going to roll with it for a while. I see they have an extension for Safari that allows them to hijack the address bar, which is just what I needed.

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[-] jflorez@sh.itjust.works 82 points 9 months ago

DuckDuckGo on Firefox. If you truly want to de-google your life avoid Chrome and Chromium based browsers like Edge and Brave

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 80 points 9 months ago

I just make a post in NoStupidQuestions and use y'all like a search engine. :P

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 33 points 9 months ago

Posting a wrong answer is a good way to get the right answer in a reply!

[-] Fal@yiffit.net 33 points 9 months ago
[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 19 points 9 months ago

You're thinking of Godwin's Law

[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 31 points 9 months ago
[-] snooggums@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago

Almost got me!

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[-] frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 59 points 9 months ago

I'm out of the loop on DDG, what did they do?

[-] b000rg@midwest.social 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

[Edited by the commenter to remove incorrect information, see below.] I'm not sure if anything else has come up since then though, and I've continued using DDG, just not for any sort of news or information on current events. I mainly use a search engine for dev stuff anyways.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 10 points 9 months ago

Do you have a source for that?

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[-] nix@merv.news 50 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

https://kagi.com no ads, great results. It’s $5 a month but worth it imo

[-] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Seconding. Kagi is the only one that was able to replace Google for me.

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[-] jcrabapple@infosec.pub 49 points 9 months ago

Half a dozen people in here already mentioned it, but Kagi has completely changed the search game and changed the way I use the Internet. It's like an old school search engine with modern conveniences like a chat bot and summarizer, but without the ads and other shenanigans.

[-] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago

Ugh, paid. In this economy!?

[-] festus@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago

I know, that was my reaction at first too. But I tried it for a month and honestly it's an amazing search engine. If it helps you to know, when you search they also use the (paid) search APIs of other search engines and aggregate the results in a way to get something better than any individual engine - so your searches actually have a decent marginal cost for them.

[-] jcrabapple@infosec.pub 11 points 9 months ago
[-] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago

except it's not for me... I search way, way more than 300/month and $10/m honestly sounds a little unreasonable for a search engine.

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[-] TiffyBelle@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago

I personally enjoy DDG. Their privacy policy for their search is straightforward and there's no evidence that they're not abiding by it. I find it tends to prioritize higher quality blogs and articles ahead of social media results.

I sometime use Brave Search as it seems to do better at giving social media/forum results as they seem to be prioritized higher by it, when I'm looking for more discussion-based content.

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[-] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 38 points 9 months ago

Firefox allowed you to define the default search and have many many engines listed. That's been a standard feature for many years.

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 22 points 9 months ago

even simpler – Firefox will auto-detect a lot of search engines – right-click in the search/address bar and if Firefox can detect it, bottom option will be to add that engine to your list

[-] quirzle@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago

I'm pretty sure most browsers can. Pretty sure OP's complaint's a big misplaced on that one.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 31 points 9 months ago

Kagi. Nothing else even comes close. Kagi is what Google used to be, before they decided they'll show you whatever is profitable, rather than what they know you're looking for.

[-] MSids@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

Not sure I'm ready to pay for search especially not at $5-10/mo.

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 11 points 9 months ago

If you're not spending some money then you're not the customer, you're the product. Would you really prefer the web continue to be supported by ads and people who sell data about you?

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[-] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago

Yep. Like $1.99 or $2.99 I can easily justify but $5/mo for only 300 searches feels too steep to me reguardless of result quality. I'll just go through the other pages of results from any other search engine.

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[-] Badabinski@kbin.social 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I've been incredibly happy with Kagi. All of the listicles and blogspam get shunted off into their own sections. Kagi also seems to do a pretty good job at finding "deep" results. Like, when I want to find out more information about some home automation gizmo, Kagi does a good job of finding some random blog post where someone has torn the gizmo apart and analyzed every strength and weakness it has. I still prefer Google for looking up restaurants and stuff, but I hardly use it anymore. I don't at all regret the $10 a month I pay to use Kagi.

Edit: I also like that Kagi lets you define rules. Occasionally I'll be forced to go to Reddit to get some information (I really try to go elsewhere first). I deleted my account, so I go to new Reddit by default (which I hate). I don't want to add an extension to redirect to old Reddit, but I can just replace the www with old automagically for all Reddit search results. Works great.

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

Kagi is by far the best search engine I've ever used. It is paid though.

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[-] Faresh@lemmy.ml 26 points 9 months ago

I use SearXNG. It is a meta search engine so it use results from various other search engines and you can specify which with !. It does the job for me.

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[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 9 months ago

The best I've found is Mojeek. The results take some getting used to because we're all used to Google's fuckery, but I've been using it for months, and it's quite good.

There's also SearXNG, though I'm not sure if that fits your needs. A couple public instances I've liked are:

https://searx.tiekoetter.com/

https://search.fuckoffgoogle.net/

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 15 points 9 months ago

Random SearX Redirector – basically just that, sends your search to a random working SearXNG instance

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[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago

check out ecosia.org! plant trees while you search! 🌳

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[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Duckduckgo and (downvotes incoming) brave search.

https://duckduckgo.com

https://search.brave.com/

And I disagree with you, I don't know a single browser where you can't change the default search engine.

[-] billbasher@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

I like startpage.com. It doesn’t save your searches and I feel like it gives better results than DDG. Also it’s been around for awhile - it used to be ixquick

[-] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 23 points 9 months ago
[-] billbasher@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Oh wow that happened 4 years ago?! Time to find a new one..

[-] EmasXP@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Been using Qwant for maybe a year or so. Recently found Swisscows too. I am not sure if Qwant uses their own index. I remember that they said that they were to create their own index, but the results looks suspiciously similar to Bing. Swisscows for sure runs their own index, and I find the results to be rather good

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[-] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 9 months ago

Kagi is the best around if you are willing to pay. If I had to cancel my subscription for whatever reason, I would go back to DDG.

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[-] bloopernova@programming.dev 10 points 9 months ago

Kagi

It's a paid subscription but it's better than Google, I've found.

https://kagi.com/

[-] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Meta search engines:

  • SearX

    Open source, self hostable meta search engine.

  • SearXNG

    Better version of SearX. A list of SearX and SearXNG instances is available at https://searx.space

Also meta search engines, but different:

  • DuckDuckGo

    It's very privacy friendly, but it gets all the search results from Microsoft's Bing.

  • Startpage

    Basically the same thing but it uses Google results. They are really focused on privacy too, they even are on Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@StartpageSearch

    They're based in the EU (Netherlands) so they are also subject to the GDPR.

Independent:

  • Brave Search

    They recently stopped using Google and Bing and created their own search index. It appears to be privacy friendly, but the company behind Brave is not ideal.

  • Mojeek

    A small privacy focused search engine, that uses its own index. They're also on Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@Mojeek

  • Kagi

    I've seen many many people recommend it, but I have never really used it myself. It's not free, they charge $5/month for 300 searches and $10 for unlimited searches.

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