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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 90 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The wonderful thing about tiggers is that tiggers are wonderful things.

[-] crazycaveman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 years ago

Their tops are made out of rubber, their bottoms are made out of springs!

[-] shottymcb@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

They're bouncy pouncey trouncey bouncy fun fun fun fun fun fun!

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[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

100 years ago in high school our token black guy sang the tigger song with lyrics modified for nigger. I forgot how it went but I remember feeling emotionally moved by it.

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 70 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lol the censor board and Winnie the Pooh reminds me of the time Chinese censors were having a rough time trying to censor Megan Three Stallion's (the artist who was featured in Cardi B's W.A.P.) performance livestreamed at Coachella...

[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

Cardi B is the artist who made W.A.P. Megan Thee Stallion was just a guest feature on the song.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago
[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago
[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I did, it originally said artist who made W.A.P. and now it's featured in W.A.P.

Here, I went back and made it even more clear.

[-] dipshit@lemmy.world 68 points 2 years ago

Disney’s copyright goes harder than it ever should’ve in the first place.

[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's got nothing to do with Disney (other than them having changed the laws overall), it's to do with the original books. The first book is in the public domain, but the second book which introduced tigger, is not yet.

[-] dipshit@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

Yeah. ~~35~~ ~~70~~ 70+?! years after the creator’s death. That extension brought to you by the Disney company.

[-] potoo22@programming.dev 54 points 2 years ago

Piglet couldn't censor the mirror.

A bounty has been placed. The lawyers have been made aware of your presence.

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago

See you in twelve days, Tigger!

[-] Omgarm@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago
[-] TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Still can see tiggers butt and tail in the mirror

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

You're profiting off of this?

Congratulations!

If not, how does Tigger not being public domain affect you at all?

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 52 points 2 years ago

It's a joke comic about the copyright system.

[-] 520@kbin.social 39 points 2 years ago

Not OP but in theory it shouldn't do, at least not for comics like this.

Parody is considered fair use under US copyright law.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 8 points 2 years ago

Sure parody is a defence to copyright infringement. At the end of the day, it's not my job to say it's protected by parody. That's your job as the Defendant. I only have to prove that you infringed onto my copyrights.

Even if it is clear parody, I can quietly withdraw or settle my claim against you to prevent others from even thinking about it. It's why SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation) legislation has to exist.

[-] 520@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

All true, hence I say in theory.

[-] Phrodo_00@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

Copyright violations are not dependent on profit. Profit just makes it easier to calculate damages.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Copyright violations are not dependent on profit. Profit just makes it easier to calculate damages.

Ehhh....sort of.

You're right to the extent that it's not a straight "copyright infringement requires that the infringer profit", but in US copyright law:

First, the copyright holder can take profits that are made by the infringer:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/504

(b) Actual Damages and Profits.—

The copyright owner is entitled to recover the actual damages suffered by him or her as a result of the infringement, and any profits of the infringer that are attributable to the infringement and are not taken into account in computing the actual damages. In establishing the infringer’s profits, the copyright owner is required to present proof only of the infringer’s gross revenue, and the infringer is required to prove his or her deductible expenses and the elements of profit attributable to factors other than the copyrighted work.

Second, some forms of fair use -- which permit use of copyrighted material -- do take into account whether someone was aiming to make money from it (though it's not a "all noncommercial use is fair game" sort of thing):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 17 U.S.C. § 106 and 17 U.S.C. § 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include:

  1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

I realize this won't be a popular view, but I don't think you should be able to use, and profit from, a character someone else created, regardless of how long ago they were created. The original work becoming public domain, sure, but write your own characters.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 48 points 2 years ago

I've got bad news for you about much of the history of human creative work.

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You know that most of Disney's stuff that they profit from is characters created by other people, right?

[-] brsrklf@jlai.lu 7 points 2 years ago

Some even closer than most think. The Sword in the Stone is based on a 1938 book, it's not an original adaptation of Arthurian legend.

Though really, there never has been so many new takes on Arthur than today.

Many consider that the real golden age of these stories as popular tales is right now, kickstarted "only" 150 years ago by Mark Twain and his Yankee in King Arthur's Court.

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago
[-] art@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

No reason to fight this. Everything is a remix of something else. That's just how creativity works.

[-] GhostsAreShitty@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Looking at the Venus de Milo

“I mean, it’s great and all, but it’s so derivative.”

[-] snaggen@programming.dev 15 points 2 years ago

But you are using characters you didn't invent to communicate this, without paying someone. Invent your own alphabet!

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[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Dude just binned The Bible.

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[-] misophist@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

These down votes are lame. I disagree with you completely, but your opinion is still valid. I think after the original author is long dead, I'd like to see new perspectives breathing new life into old fictional characters. Otherwise, are you saying we can't make new stories about Hercules, Odysseus, Jesus, etc?

[-] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Robin Hood is another example of a set of works that had many people contributing different stories into what became the present-day collection.

Historically, a lot of works had many authors using the same character. I think that it's a bit unfortunate that modern copyright law tends to discourage that.

H. P. Lovecraft was unusual in that he allowed other authors to make use of his characters (and settings, which are also covered by copyright), which is why his world -- with Cthulhu and all that -- has been widely used.

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[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

The original work becoming public domain, sure, but write your own characters.

I don't understand what you're suggesting here. How would you reconcile the original work being public domain with still wanting to restrict the use of its characters?

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[-] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Although I don't share your point of view, I respect and would like to know more, would you care to elaborate on the reasons that led to or justify your opinion ?

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[-] yuki2501@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

The mirror, I hadn't noticed 🤣

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