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[-] Rayleigh@feddit.de 53 points 2 years ago

When she is done in Paris can she pleeeeaaase come to Berlin?

[-] badmemes@feddit.de 31 points 2 years ago

Or do the same stuff on an EU-wide level? I bet there are a lot of other cities that could use her kind of changes.

[-] Anekdoteles@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Problem is, that cities are politically gerry-mandered into entitities with SFH developed areas and countrysides. That's why we don't see urbanism as the powerful political force that it could and should be.

[-] TwoCubed@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Don't the SUVs in Berlin get stolen within a couple of days anyway?

Edit: my brother who lives in Berlin got himself an SUV (Kia Sportage) and whenever he found a parking spot near his home, he'd leave it there for weeks because he was so happy to park near home. His car got stolen. Now he takes the U-Bahn to work and he's actually happier than before. He got his money back for the stolen car, so there's that.

[-] V0uges@jlai.lu 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well send her with great pleasure, wherever you want and don’t feel as you need to ship her back. Just ensure that for once she pushes for policies that aren’t just intended to punish the people who live outside of her city while she maintains the status quo for her people and lets them do whatever they want.

[-] mariusz@feddit.de 41 points 2 years ago

"The move will not apply to Paris residents’ parking." 🤡

[-] V0uges@jlai.lu 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As usual. I work in Paris but decided to move way out of the city. Technically still Paris metro but it’s plain countryside, small villages, forest and all. Most people here drive regular cars. Farmers and people who work in the forest or manual jobs now tend to use Asian style pick-ups. But when I exit the subway on the days I’m at the office, I’m suddenly surrounded by people who live in Paris and barely exit it (the surburbs, can you imagine the infamy and the poverty?) who drive massive Land Rovers which have never ever seen mud since they were built. They just want to ensure that people from the suburb don’t go inside the city limits, and if they do that it’ll only those with pockets full of cash.

As usual, Hidalgo is full of shit.

[-] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 39 points 2 years ago

Good for them, fuck large cars. They are child killers.

[-] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago

Hey, hey! That's an unfair take. They also kill adults, seniors in particular.

[-] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago

Yeah but the public doesn't pearl clutch like they do when they "think of the children".

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

No, it's because they are particularly dangerous to children.

[-] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

No, it’s because they are particularly dangerous to children.

If you peruse statistics of pedestrian deaths, you will find both children and seniors are the most frequent victims. Look it up.

[-] golli@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I think the point might be that SUVs due to their height have worse blind spots e.g. in front of the hood, which would probably impact children more.

So this particular characteristic would endanger children more than adults and seniors who are taller.

[-] lorez@lemm.ee 35 points 2 years ago

Great. Extend the measure to all of the EU.

[-] thedoginthewok@feddit.de 30 points 2 years ago

This is smart

[-] filister@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Yes, they are U Huge, usually occupies a lot more space, weigh more, are worse for the environment, the roads, pretty much everything and are a sigh how wasteful and oblivious of its impact the humanity became

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 2 years ago

Misleading headline.

It also applies to electric vehicles over 2000kg, which is pretty much most of them.

London's ULEZ scheme is better than this.

[-] schlump@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

While it's true that this is not only about cutting air pollution, there are many EVs that under 2000kg

[-] afrom@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They allowed the US SUV and pickup fashion to swap over to Europe (20 years ago there was little to none of those on European roads) so that when people are buying them, they get punished for doing so!? My point is, why the majority is acting like it is only the ordinary people's fault?

[-] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 14 points 2 years ago

why the majority is acting like it is the ordinary people's fault?

Because it is. The market produces what consumers buy.

If nobody buys SUVs, nobody produces SUVs. It's 100% on the consumer in the EU, there's enough other cars available.

[-] afrom@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Partly correct ...market produces what consumers buy but here was no such things like SUVs and pickups so they needed to introduce them so ppl can buy. It's basically marketing 1st. Marketing has a huge influence

[-] ElmarsonTheThird@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

They didn't need to introduce them, they saw the opportunity to do so. Besides, there's always been the possibility to buy a utilitarian pick up truck but they're work vehicles.

It's just supply and demand. Someone offers SUVs and Trucks, people buy them all, other companies offer more of the same. So of course, everyone who wanted to buy one made the concious decision to do so. The consumers are, in fact, responsible for their actions.

Guess why there are so few station wagons in the US now, as opposed to the 1980s. People wanted bigger cars and the market phased out the more sensible, but less desired option.

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 3 points 2 years ago

They will just park in smaller parking spots.

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