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"I said, 'Dad, I have to go, if this is the last time we talk, I love you,'" Henderson recalled. "I lost my mom a few years ago, so my dad is like my lifeline. Just saying goodbye to him was tough."

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[-] BigWheelPowerBrakeSlider@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

Ho hum just another day in America. People kill people, thoughts and prayers, Mental health (but we can't pay for better mental health care cause then you're stealing my money to give to the crazies), etc, et al, ad nauseam.

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago

Yeah. No way to prevent this, says only nation etc.

[-] Crismus@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Wasn't a spree shooter. Just a disgruntled person who had no more prospects left so killed those who he felt were in his way from getting a job.

The gun was bought over a year ago legally. He had just been evicted and lost out on getting a promotion to tenure so he had no more options left. None of the students were targets because he killed coworkers.

It's sad that the students were afraid, but gun control wouldn't have changed anything. The way to prevent this from happening would be to spread the tuition money to associate professors who actually teach the classes instead of all the money going to Administrative Profit.

The shootings won't stop by banning the tools, but by fixing the inequality in our economic systems. Sadly the media and politicians will talk about guns instead of the actual problems with pay. UNLV already was a gun free zone, but somehow that will never come up in the media coverage. Banning AR-15's wouldn't have changed this outcome.

The media loves sowing fear. Articles about scared students will feed the vultures for weeks and never go into actual real world ways to stop this problem. We have lost hope in this country. The majority of people are 1 crisis away from death, and we are stuck with politicians and a President who don't want people to be able to defend themselves. Not to mention asking the corporations bleeding us all dry to please stop raising prices.

I really hate the blatant fear mongering.

[-] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I really hate the blatant fear mongering.

Student: I called my dad to say goodbye and tell him that I loved him because I thought I was going to die during the mass shooting at my school.

Gun nut: StOp FeAr MonGeRiNg!!!!11!!! GuNs DoNt KiLl PeOpLe DeYz JusT a ToOl!!!11! Huurrr

[-] Crismus@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

What I was talking about the media focusing on fearful stories.

Maybe I'm old, but shouldn't we fear fear itself instead of having a media push stories that promote fear? Kids have been pushed into fearing guns and school shootings when it is such a low percentage of death.

Or maybe you just are unwilling to see past the narratives and see the bias inherent in the media recently? The media has been pushing division for decades now to keep the money hungry corporations happy. Local news has all been bought up.

I'm sad about that students hardship, and am happy they were able to tell their father they loved them.

I just recognize that it is pushing a fear based narrative to become fish in a barrel and embrace death during a crisis.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

you should fear guns. Isn't that the first rule of gun ownership? The gun is always loaded, even when it's not. Only point it at stuff you intend to destroy.

That is legitimate and helpful fear. Same as you should be afraid of electrical current, raw chicken, fast flowing water and bears.

[-] LemonLigger@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Conflates fear with accounting for risk and safety

Me when notice a car nearby 😱 😱 😱

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

yeah you shouldn't walk in front of traffic either? I'm not sure how this is much of a comeback.

[-] LemonLigger@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

If I posted, "you should fear cars. Isn’t that the first rule of car ownership?" under and article about truck stampeding protesters, most would call it absurd. Try to understand logical consistency.

You said the first thing individuals are taught is to fear firearms when learning to use them, which is patently false.

Learning to use a firearm isn't storming the beaches of Normandy, just as learning to use a car doesn't require an individual to leg it across a highway. Pertaining to an ordinary setting, the only similarity is using a tool, you confuse fear for respect.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

but that isn't the first rule of car ownership, it doesn't make any sense.

It does make sense to say that "the gun is always loaded" and "only point it at things you intend to destroy" which is where I was coming from.

[-] Crismus@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Respect isn't fear. Knowing what something is capable of isn't being afraid of the item. Fearing something puts more emphasis on the bad possibilities than is reasonable.

Recognizing danger should have nothing to do with fear. Fear is irrational.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'd argue "respecting what could kill you" is both a form and consequence of fear, fear being an instinct borne of self-preservation and the necessity of the social contract.

[-] CouncilOfFriends@slrpnk.net 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Please define "low percentage." In 2021 firearm deaths were the leading cause of death for people ages 1 to 19.

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Maybe I'm old

Sounds like you're not forced to spend 5 days a week at a location targeted by mass shooters.

The media has been pushing division for decades now to keep the money hungry corporations happy. Local news has all been bought up.

Firearm manufacturers have been making record profits selling guns to people who shouldn't have them, then using lobby groups to donate $16 million a year to Republicans -- a figure that conspicuously doubled in 2012 after Sandy Hook.

But of course they're not "money hungry corporations" putting profits before lives, it's all the medias fault for greedily reporting on things that happened.

I'm sad about that students hardship, and am happy they were able to tell their father they loved them.

You're not very good at pretending to have emotions and compassion.

Hearing your peers being indiscriminately executed and surviving through nothing but dumb luck is not a "hardship", it's trauma on par with living in a war zone.

There is nothing at all "happy" about a child fearing for their lives and calling their father to say their last words. It's genuinely surreal to see you describe it like that. Who are you happy for?

I just recognize that it is pushing a fear based narrative to become fish in a barrel and embrace death during a crisis

Word salad.

[-] ReasonablePea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

This is a point of view I didn't know existed. Thanks for that

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