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[-] aelwero@lemmy.world 110 points 2 years ago

We need to get rid of riders... Someone propose a "one bill-one item" rule already, and stick that motherfucker on every single fucking bill as a rider until something comes along that'll bait em all into that shit.

[-] PupBiru@kbin.social 31 points 2 years ago

perhaps, but combining bills does allow for good ways of compromise… i’ll pass your bill that i don’t agree with if you pass a change to this other thing that addresses my concerns, etc

[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Obama did something like that. It didn't work. All the little add ons are so each politician in a contested district can get something for their voters to justify all the other parts of the bill their voters don't like. Without that nothing ever gets passed.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

"We tried" and then go on recess for 6 weeks

[-] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

What if I told you that slime ball Matt Gaetz has already proposed this issue multiple times. Not sure how I feel about that but it’s the only sane thing I’ve heard from his side.

[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Because it would cause gridlock. That's why Gaetz wants to do it. There are too many things to pass one at a time. There are not enough affirmative votes on most single issues to pass anything. You need the little extra things to pull in the politicians who would otherwise not vote for that one thing because their local base doesn't want it.

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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

And like that you've broken the biggest tool legislators have to negotiate marginal votes into their camp

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 58 points 2 years ago

The Putin Caucus at work. (Trump is Putin's lapdog. Tell your friends.)

So I guess Moscow Mitch is back.

[-] Jeff@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

He glitched enough times it forced a rebuild of his OS back to Komrad v1.01

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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Almost as if they where working for china and Russia trying to discredit the us internally but they are or too stupid or too greedy to notice.

Or both

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago

Honestly best thing Republicans have done in the past 20 years. Don't get me wrong Ukraine needs US support, but this is the fault of the dinosaurs that decided Ukrainian and aid support for Israel's genocide are synonymous.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago

Ukraine support was already under fire, they tried to push it through by attaching it to the Israel package.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

Well I guess in a way they're standing up for their principles? Anyway I just wish Ukrainian aid could just pass without support for Israel's genocide.

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

This has nothing to do with Israel. Republicans would nuke Gaza if they could.

This is them holding up broadly popular legislation in order to make some stupid demands on "border security" so they can tell their constituents that they basically built a wall.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah I know. I'm just happy they're fucking themselves over at the expense of Israel's genocide, though it's sad that Ukraine got caught up in the mess.

[-] ImTryingLemmy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

I am happy to say that Cornyn (R-TX) hates Israel.

[-] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Texas passed a law in 2022 preventing Texas from doing business with companies that "boycott Israel" can we somehow get rid of Cruz and Cornyn for this? https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/GV/htm/GV.2271.htm

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

I hate everyone you mentioned, but Cruz and Cornyn are federal legislators. They don't pass state laws. That's not how it works.

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[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Correct me of I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the president has the authority to send troops to engage an enemy for up to like 60 days before needing to have anything cleared by congress.

If this is how Republicans want to play, we could still still support Ukraine by intervening directly.

[-] ImTryingLemmy@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago

Oh buddy, don't wish for that.

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[-] balancedchaos@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

The LAST thing we want is to be directly involved.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

The last thing we want to do is show Russia that the threat of escalation is their free pass to wipe other countries off the map. The best thing we can do in terms of impact on the US, is to arm Ukraine so that they're capable of winning this stupid fucking war on their own; but republicans are blocking that, because they don't give a fuck about human life.

I don't see any good options on the table... so, what's the least-bad option?

[-] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

Fuck that!

That really will escalate the war.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Oh dang, I forgot about escalation. Which country should we feed to Putin after he's done destroying Ukraine? Gotta keep him appeased at all costs!

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[-] JimboDHimbo@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

...you want dead or wounded American soldiers? Disgusting.

Edit: just to clarify, my point is that we're all human, no matter the occupation. You shouldn't think of sending troops like moving a chess piece. That's someone's family member.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Speaking as a vet - I understand the implication. I also understand the implication of just letting Russia decimate other countries without consequence. Families are being murdered on your chess board right now whether or not they fly our colors. Russia is currently in a severely weakened state, so a full military response from the US and hopefully our allies would end the war practically over night.

The best option is for Russia to pull out on its own - that's not going to happen. The second best option is for Ukraine to defend itself in a manner effective enough to force Russia to withdraw - republicans are blocking that. The third best option is for the rest of the world to step in to swiftly end wars of aggression.

The worst thing we can do is show Russia that the threat of escalation is enough to give them a free pass to just wipe other countries off the map.

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[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

This isn't /r/NCD

[-] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Now that is certainly a take

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

They only are giving a damn about that worthless wall.

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[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Good, Both Ukraine and Israel need to fight their own wars.

[-] MisterD@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

Ok then. When Ukraine falls, we'll send in US troops to stop Russia. I take it you'll be first in line to join them.

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[-] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago

Yes, every country is an island, just like every man.

/s

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[-] Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Boy Libs sure do love themselves a war. Especially when it's halfway across the world and they don't have to send their own children to die.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Anyone blocking fee bombs for israel is based. Good jobs repubs.

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