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[-] Rhaedas@kbin.social 56 points 1 year ago

1980s: You could flip burgers to help pay for the college and not be thousands in debt at graduation.

[-] smort@feddit.nl 51 points 1 year ago

1960s: You could flip burgers during summers to entirely pay for college.

[-] joshh@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

1770s: what the hell are you doing with that cow?

[-] hiyaaaaa23@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

College costs more than a house!

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 47 points 1 year ago

Also, "flip burgers" is a bad description of how hard it is to actually work in food service

You just know someone with a two-stall garage and boat who's always had things handed to them came up with that shit

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 32 points 1 year ago

Why is it that the hardest workers are the lowest paid?

[-] Strangian@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

That’s the magic of Exploitation!

[-] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 14 points 1 year ago

supply and demand. flipping burgers has no gatekeepers, natural or artificial, and lots of people are overall willing to do it, so workers are easy to replace and wages can be pushed down a lot. there are low skill jobs that are actually well-paid, but they usually involve way less savory stuff that fewer people like to do.

of course, if a strong social safety net, or heavens forbid, universal basic income happened, way fewer people would be willing to flip burgers, while the demand for burgers would likely go up slightly, so people flipping burgers would get paid better, because a lot fewer people would want to flip burgers. hence the comparisons to the good half of europe where people flipping burgers get paid better.

but the point is, when a job is easier to do, it's because it's gatekept in a way that some harder jobs aren't. sometimes that's due to skill, other times it's entirely artificial. but a gatekept job can't be a universal "hey, do that job instead" thing, specifically because it's gatekept.

ubi would be great because it would make it disproportionately more difficult to hire for hard jobs than for easy ones, but when the alternative is starving to death, a lot of people accept the hard job instead.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

The term low-skilled labor is classist propaganda

But you are correct that this is how it's perceived through the warped lens of capitalism

UBI is not the answer. It's just liberals' way of propping up an inherently exploitative system

[-] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think its about time to train employees and the cost of mistakes while they train.

If the cost of mistakes is low, and employees can be trained relatively quickly, employers will exploit the fuck out of people.

[-] saigot@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Once you have the position to negotiate your wage you also have the ability to negotiate your workload.

[-] exohuman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 year ago

2023: let’s roll back child labor laws so we can pay them slave wages to flip burgers.

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Oh, I see you've met my parents too.

[-] hiyaaaaa23@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Sorry, we’re now have to pay off the equilavent of a mortgage in student loan, no we don’t want $7.25 an hour

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